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the second one is very common, text book. Franklin did it at the last ufc agant Lutter.
You can link the rolling part with the last one (that's what i do most of the time). In the very first one (rolling with the guy), you are like a 'ball' and when the guy pull on your arm you can roll with him ( anyway, never get 'flat' on you back) and start the other counter : stacking. The only difference i do with the stacking is that i will kind of sit on the butt of the guy in the bottom and i will pull my arm off.
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