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Old 05-18-2008, 12:11 AM   #71 (permalink)

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Sad thing is that there's probably more people training at McDojos, more McDojos versus real gyms by far and more money going into McDojoism than into true Martial Arts.

To me this is a scam and should be treated as such.
hey look, you're still alive. hey will you be stateside for the mundials? if so, i might travel down to hang out.
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Old 05-18-2008, 12:15 AM   #72 (permalink)

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fuck, double post. i am always amused by mcdojo that are so whack you wonder what the fuck has happened to the people that train there for years, that they could believe such utter crap. the places that claim to teach you how to kill and maim with a mere nod of the head. as i type this i guess these guys walk through life thinking how above it all and beyond all the petty skirmishes they are since they can kill with a mere touch. like a guy who has a gun at his house but never fires it or loads it, just satisfied knowing he has the power to kill.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:06 AM   #73 (permalink)

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yeah, that he got in 2 years under "Henzo Gracie" by the age of 23. He also has absolutely no pro-record according to any sites that I know of.


I know some people that went there to check it out. the guy is completely full of shit.
I'm just astonished that theres people out there lying about their belt status.
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:47 AM   #74 (permalink)

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Maybe I miss understood the meaning of a McDojo. I consider Degerberg a McDojo because there are like 1000 items with the name on it and you must wear the Degerberg uniform/clothes to class. Plus there are like 1000 students (probably not underestimated). And when you sign up it's very processed.

It's a great school though. I didn't know it needed to be a bad gym with bad instructors to be a McDojo.

If you want a BAD McDojo school... The first school I went to was called "Chung Moo Quan".
What a joke! I grew up in Chicago so I know a street scam when I see one. This place was a street scam in a suburban strip mall. The students were all about it. They believed EVERYTHING the instructor would say. And believe me it was some MAJOR bullshit. Example, the head instructor could cure illnessses with laying on of hands, he once through a spear which was going to hit somebody and caught it in mid flight and that he could jump off a 6 story buildings with out a scratch.

This place was soooo bad that the heads of the schools were sent to prison for tax evasion and threats of force on people that didn't pay up.

Here are some links, and yes they are out of prison and back to buisness.

Chung Moo Quan-Martial Arts School

Chung Moo Doe and the Law

Chung Moo Doe

And back in biz as Oom Yung Doe or Chung Moo Doe:
School of Oom Yung Doe The Grand Master "Iron" Kim Style

Needless to say that this left a bad taste in my mouth about the martial arts. I knew that most places were definatley not like this but I was suprised to see the extent of the scam.

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Old 05-18-2008, 10:29 AM   #75 (permalink)

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I'm just astonished that theres people out there lying about their belt status.
yeah, it's unreal. But at least I know this guy really exists, lol
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What the crap? I looked like hat when I rolled with my firends back in the early 2000's and didn't train at a school. Seriously they had no positional control, or balance. The leglock battle was a joke.
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hey look, you're still alive. hey will you be stateside for the mundials? if so, i might travel down to hang out.
Still alive!

Sorry, man. I'm going to Brazil in June so I won't make the Mundials this year. I'll have to settle for Copa Do Mundo, Master's Mundials ( yes, I'm old now ) and the Rio International. Gonna train my ass off and try to qualify for the ADCC European Qualifiers this fall.

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