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Old 01-08-2006, 10:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lifting weights before or after a bjj session?

I do both pretty intense and would need time to recover. I tend to do bjj first because its more important to me.
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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General Concensus would say that anything heavily based around fluidity of movement and demonstration of skill or technique needs your muscles to be in top condition, so they're better able to attain muscle memory, as well as do exactly what you tell them to. If you're a serious weight-lifter(i.e.- You don't use the Squat Assist rack to tone up your biceps then leave the gym) that understands how to hit the high stages of fatigue, I would say stick with BJJ first, then weights to 'finish' the night off.

Intensity levels and personal capacity make the biggest claim in how you train, though. If you were a person that tended to go for soft, short periods of weight lifting, I'd tell you to do it before-hand as a pansy warm-up. If you're moving serious steel, though, always finish the exercises that require the most focus beforehand.

If your upper-body were completely exhausted before showing up on a Rolling night, and someone clapped an armbar on, you could be in a dangerous situation.
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Definitely after. Preferrably many hours apart or later in the day - even better on separate days.

I usually train with high intensity, compound movements (bench, cleans, squats, chins, dips). I would definitely not have the energy to complete this workout after a decent judo session.

Nor would I be able to train with 100% effort at judo if I did not allow for enough rest (ie; 1 day at least). I would fear injury - a valid point as Guards mentioned.
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Definitely after. Preferrably many hours apart or later in the day - even better on separate days.

I usually train with high intensity, compound movements (bench, cleans, squats, chins, dips). I would definitely not have the energy to complete this workout after a decent judo session.

Nor would I be able to train with 100% effort at judo if I did not allow for enough rest (ie; 1 day at least). I would fear injury - a valid point as Guards mentioned.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Definitely after. Preferrably many hours apart or later in the day - even better on separate days.

I usually train with high intensity, compound movements (bench, cleans, squats, chins, dips). I would definitely not have the energy to complete this workout after a decent judo session.

Nor would I be able to train with 100% effort at judo if I did not allow for enough rest (ie; 1 day at least). I would fear injury - a valid point as Guards mentioned.
would this effect recovery time?
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I don't have the luxus to train both things seperated because i have 4 week days BJJ and on sunday i don't want to visit the gym.
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Personally I go to BJJ then head straight to the gym to lift from there. After a few weeks of getting accustomed to it, my lifts have remained pretty good right after BJJ. Now, if I were to wait a few hours after rolling for the exhaustion to really set in, I don't think I'd have as good a lifting workout.

Definately BJJ first IMO.
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Not to go against the flow but I usually do the opposite. Judo drains too much energy for me to lift weights after, but weights leave me with enough energy to do judo after. And I'm usually the strongest guy around the dojo so if doing weights before can get me a bit weaker, it'll just make me focus more on technique.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:39 PM   #10 (permalink)

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i dont have the time to do weights after.
bjj and judo for me run from 8pm to 10.
my gym closes at 10.
i do an upper body weights session at 6pm on a thursday and then do judo at 8pm.
on saturdays i do a lower body weights session at 10am and then do bjj at 12.
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