Judo throws and sweeps in BJJ - Page 4

makoa26 · 05-08-2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Q mystic

I wanna see a bjjer that has well rounded nice throws that didn't do official judo.

Like Thales Leites?

There is a system that judo should offer that makes you a base out fighter for throws.

You know what I really wish for? I wish there were some kind of new mixed Judo/BJJ competition. Old school Judo was cool. They should bring back more ne-waza. BJJ rules let you fall to your back and start grappling. If they would penalize guard pulling by awarding the takedown to their opponent, I believe that we would see some exciting throws in BJJ. I'm pretty sure the hard core Jits guys would disagree, but I think it would be great.

Throatpoker · 05-08-2008, 11:34 PM

^ I agree, really like to see this too.

blanko · 05-08-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by makoa26

You know what I really wish for? I wish there were some kind of new mixed Judo/BJJ competition. Old school Judo was cool. They should bring back more ne-waza. BJJ rules let you fall to your back and start grappling. If they would penalize guard pulling by awarding the takedown to their opponent, I believe that we would see some exciting throws in BJJ. I'm pretty sure the hard core Jits guys would disagree, but I think it would be great.

you do get penalized for pulling guard. You give up an advantage if you pull guard and in many fights the winner wins by advantage.

Sohei · 05-09-2008, 02:22 AM

Everybody uses an osoto-gari, hell they tech them in karate classes.

sunnycoastbjj · 05-09-2008, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by IChinaManI

He meant like footsweeps lol

Lol thanks for clearing that up! (and making me look like a complete fool!)

sunnycoastbjj · 05-09-2008, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by blanko

you do get penalized for pulling guard. You give up an advantage if you pull guard and in many fights the winner wins by advantage.

I wasn't aware of that.. Is that rule in the mundials too?

trunksan · 05-09-2008, 05:07 AM

Despite having started from BJJ, now I train BJJ and Judo equaly.

When we do stand-up in BJJ it's my chance to try the more fancy stuff, Sode-trurikomi goshi, sei-ototshi variatons...... Uchi mata I don't use yet, althouh it would easily work in BJJ class.

Basicaly everything works for me in BJJ standing-up, simply because your average-BJJer (up to purple belt and even black belts) is very inexperienced.

Just as ground-work is usually badly-taguht in Judo.. equally stand-up is badly taught in BJJ.

Nickynoneck · 05-09-2008, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FLMikeATT

How effective is sumi gaeshi in competition? I've seen it used a few times in MMA, but I haven't really seen it in Judo or BJJ competition. I see a lot more Tomo nage's though.

It's basically a butterfly guard sweep from standing. I noticed they drilled it a ton on the BJJ Fight Quest episode.

this is me winning with sumi gaeshi

trunksan · 05-09-2008, 05:26 AM

....and the single leg (Kutsiki daoshi) is never taught properly in BJJ.....

Try it without holding the sleeve against an experienced opponent and it never works...

codemonkey76 · 05-09-2008, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blanko

you do get penalized for pulling guard. You give up an advantage if you pull guard and in many fights the winner wins by advantage.

i have only competed in 4 tournaments, but each of them did not penalize guard pulling with an advantage... Unless you grab the guys pants before he pulls guard, then you get 2 pts for the takedown. Also if the guy pulls guard because it looks likely that you will get a takedown, like if you are attempting a throw, then you get 2pts for the TD