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Old 05-08-2008, 09:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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Shinya Aoki nails Osoto often in Gi and No-Gi. And he actually does it fairly textbook. He's one of the only guys that I've seen do Osoto consistently without the gi. He even did a huge one in ADCC 2005.
Osoto, from what little I have seen, is quite common in grappling from judoka. Jis-a-jump-to-the-right, pull-osoto.
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The over shoulder grip+uchi mata will launch guys in that stance man.
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Osoto, from what little I have seen, is quite common in grappling from judoka. Jis-a-jump-to-the-right, pull-osoto.
It is with a gi, BUUTTTT.....


No gii is a different animal for us that have a Judo background, and without a gi, Osoto is VERY difficult to pull off and there are many other "safer bet" throws to count on. Plus, even if you can do it in no gi, most often it's pretty ugly. I was saying how impressive it is that Aoki can pull off beautiful osotos without a gi.
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How effective is sumi gaeshi in competition? I've seen it used a few times in MMA, but I haven't really seen it in Judo or BJJ competition. I see a lot more Tomo nage's though.

It's basically a butterfly guard sweep from standing. I noticed they drilled it a ton on the BJJ Fight Quest episode.
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It is with a gi, BUUTTTT.....


No gii is a different animal for us that have a Judo background, and without a gi, Osoto is VERY difficult to pull off and there are many other "safer bet" throws to count on. Plus, even if you can do it in no gi, most often it's pretty ugly. I was saying how impressive it is that Aoki can pull off beautiful osotos without a gi.
We should have a look to see if osoto similar tech works in freestyle. I'll keep an eye open.
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the georgian pickup seems to be perfect for jiu jitsu
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you did JJJ before BJJ IIRC codemonkey

any throws you kept?
the only one i have been abe to use with success is tai otoshi. Most of the throws were done against a compliant uke, so i have no good setups or combo's
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We should have a look to see if osoto similar tech works in freestyle. I'll keep an eye open.
yea lemme know man. I don't keep up with wrestling that much.
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How effective is sumi gaeshi in competition? I've seen it used a few times in MMA, but I haven't really seen it in Judo or BJJ competition. I see a lot more Tomo nage's though.

It's basically a butterfly guard sweep from standing. I noticed they drilled it a ton on the BJJ Fight Quest episode.
I find it to be very effective. I pull it off a lot.

A good time to try this is when your opponent grabs a single leg on you. If his finish isn't quick enough, you can hook your leg inside the thigh, grab his belt over the shoulder, hop close to him, and counter with sumi gaeshi.
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