Judo throws and sweeps in BJJ

[YeahBee]

Judo throws and sweeps in BJJ

Just thought it be interesting, in Gi BJJ which throws and sweeps are taught the most?

As with grading in judo you have to have quite a proficient grasp of plenty of throws and sweeps, even if they are kata-ish and archaic, with BJJ's mindset of spending most time on the ground and little in the takedown game what takedowns have you guys found most useable?

As I have never really done BJJ my uneducated guess would be

Osotogari



Hiza Guruma


Kosoto GAri


HArai Goshi


Uchi Mata


Ippon Seonagi


SAcrifice throws
Tomeo Nage
http://www.judoinfo.com/images/anima.../tomoenage.gif
(plenty of versions of this and differnt names depending on where you palce your pushing foot)



A little bit of everything, do you stay away from those that might end up in the other dudes guard?

Is it mainly double and single legs?

[Mohawk79]

There are times when you have to keep in mind that you might land in someone's guard after a throw. You have to make slight adjustments depending on the situation, if it is a judo or JJ tournament, a real fight, mma, etc.

[350 lbs fist]

I personally use uchi matas, double legs and foot sweeps the most. I've started going for some sacrifice throws where you grip the belt. ( Don't know most names in Japanese though... )

However, sacrifice throws can be very perilous for the thrower in BJJ as many have a very low crouching stance and many also spazz in the standup and get all defensive. This makes it easy to miss the more technical throws and it makes you end up in bottom sidemount.

[sunnycoastbjj]

Takedowns & Throws:
Double and single legs mainly, with a few different ways to finish them and a few different way to defend and counter them. We do work a very small amount of judo throws (which always seem too be much more technical) but unforturnatly i don't know the names of them and its rare that we do them.

Sweeps
We work alot of different sweeps but i really like the 'hip bump' of the kimura when people posture out/up, half and full butterfly sweeps and 2 open gaurd sweeps (tripod?). I'm not good with names!

[NinjaKilla187]

Tai Otoshi?

Hoping to enter my first BJJ tourny in the next few months and have mostly been working Osoto Gari, Tai Otoshi, and Seo. Would like to work in my Uchi Mata but it sort of sucks.

[YeahBee]

Originally Posted by 350 lbs fist

I personally use uchi matas, double legs and foot sweeps the most. I've started going for some sacrifice throws where you grip the belt. ( Don't know most names in Japanese though... )

However, sacrifice throws can be very perilous for the thrower in BJJ as many have a very low crouching stance and many also spazz in the standup and get all defensive. This makes it easy to miss the more technical throws and it makes you end up in bottom sidemount.

but if the sacrifice throw fails then you are half way to a guardpull, no?

[YeahBee]

Originally Posted by NinjaKilla187

Tai Otoshi?

Hoping to enter my first BJJ tourny in the next few months and have mostly been working Osoto Gari, Tai Otoshi, and Seo. Would like to work in my Uchi Mata but it sort of sucks.

Kinda redundant IMO for both Tao Otoshi and Ippon Seo

but are done in similar situations

I should have worked on another foot sweep instead

[IChinaManI]

Originally Posted by sunnycoastbjj

Takedowns & Throws:
Double and single legs mainly, with a few different ways to finish them and a few different way to defend and counter them. We do work a very small amount of judo throws (which always seem too be much more technical) but unforturnatly i don't know the names of them and its rare that we do them.

Sweeps
We work alot of different sweeps but i really like the 'hip bump' of the kimura when people posture out/up, half and full butterfly sweeps and 2 open gaurd sweeps (tripod?). I'm not good with names!

He meant like footsweeps lol

[NinjaKilla187]

Originally Posted by YeahBee

Kinda redundant IMO for both Tao Otoshi and Ippon Seo

but are done in similar situations

I should have worked on another foot sweep instead

I've been working Ouchi Gari some to, mostly to combo with my Tai Otoshi and be able to attack to both sides.

[YeahBee]

^^^^ check the jud o thread I made a post about that combo jsut recently before this thread

attack/faint with tao otoshi, they step over you ouchigari or kouchigari them