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[LyotoM]

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[Higher Learning]

Originally Posted by YeahBee

there seems to be a size advantage for the judoka. and the bjj guy goes out quick no time to defend. probably suprised

my issue with it is he doesn't even try a legit defense for the 3 seconds he has, he panics like a n00b, the ezekiel is a very, very common technique and for someone to have made it to BB and not have the sensitivity to feel that choke coming or know how to react when it does just strikes me as very weird

[kvltic]

he buys his black belt.

[judogido]

Originally Posted by Higher Learning

getting ezekiel'ed from full guard is not something i can really believe happening to a legit bjj BB though... he didn't even attempt correct defence there..?*snip*
my issue with it is he doesn't even try a legit defense for the 3 seconds he has, he panics like a n00b, the ezekiel is a very, very common technique and for someone to have made it to BB and not have the sensitivity to feel that choke coming or know how to react when it does just strikes me as very weird

Uh.... Didn't Yoshida do it to Gracie in the video posted earlier? It IS possible to land a technique on a BJJ BB.

Happens to me sometimes too. A lower grade lands somthing basic on me and I just sit there and think "F#ck - brain-fade, just got pwned. Time to wake up, gids"

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Higher Learning

my issue with it is he doesn't even try a legit defense for the 3 seconds he has, he panics like a n00b, the ezekiel is a very, very common technique and for someone to have made it to BB and not have the sensitivity to feel that choke coming or know how to react when it does just strikes me as very weird

It looks like he got greedy and tried to counter it with an armbar rather than simply defend the choke. Sometimes that works, but in this situation the choke was just too deep to attempt that counter.

I've been caught with similar stuff before. It doesn't happen too often, but it certainly can happen. If I've learned anything about chokes so far, it's that you can be choked out from any position whatsoever. It's not high percentage, but it can happen. I have choked guys who had me mounted, guys who had my back, weird positions that don't even have names, etc.

[Higher Learning]

Originally Posted by judogido

Uh.... Didn't Yoshida do it to Gracie in the video posted earlier? It IS possible to land a technique on a BJJ BB.

Happens to me sometimes too. A lower grade lands somthing basic on me and I just sit there and think "F#ck - brain-fade, just got pwned. Time to wake up, gids"

yoshida has mount, completely different situation, the ezekiel is a great choke and anyone can get caught... but from full guard and he tries to kick him away?!

@balto: you think he was trying to go for an armbar?? he looks like he is pushing away to me not moving his hips out...

i have no doubt there are awesome newaza judoka that can comfortably tap bjj blacks, i just question that guys ability based on his reaction and that particular situation

[judogido]

Originally Posted by Higher Learning

yoshida has mount, completely different situation, the ezekiel is a great choke and anyone can get caught... but from full guard and he tries to kick him away?!

@balto: you think he was trying to go for an armbar?? he looks like he is pushing away to me not moving his hips out...

i have no doubt there are awesome newaza judoka that can comfortably tap bjj blacks, i just question that guys ability based on his reaction and that particular situation

Well - I guess we're all just speculating here. The bloke seems to be wearing a black-belt, he's wearing an atama gi, and wearing a black belt with red tab (i think that means a 1st degree?). He's giving away some size, and who knows - maybe he hasn't seriously competed in a while. Then - when you're up against a tough judoka it's possible you're not sharp.

I don't see how it's that much of a big deal. As I said before - being a BJJ black belt doesn't make you invulnerable, nor is it so shocking that a BJJ BB gets tapped by a lower-grade - let alone getting caught by a judoka BB. It happens. And ... it's probably happen a lot more as BJJ BBs become more prevalent (and dare I say it - more "diluted"?) and the rest of the grappling world lifts their collective games.

[jjmuaythaiguy]

Judo rules! Hahaha, going to show Relson this and I think he would say "How come their is no hand in the collar and the other hand on the elbow?! Poha, I never teach that style." Hahaha.

[sha]

The same thing happened to me in competition once. My thinking went something like this: "haha what a noob, he's trying to choke me from my own guard... armbar city here we come! Wait... he's pretty strong... there's a lot of pressure... maybe I should defend the choke first... oh shit... tap !!!!"

[Sweet Lew]

Black Seeds playing in the background. Nice.