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Old 03-06-2007, 05:26 PM   #131 (permalink)

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One guy, I haven't seen mentioned yet, is the "no-base guy". Usually, a white belt.

You'll be setting up an great sweep, and he practically falls over before you finish the move. I hate that!
Man, if you hate rolling with guys like me, you would hate even more to be me. It is not fun for the guy that has to use every ounce of strength and technique to get to a dominant position only to have it be swept away in the opponents first attempt. I have since figured out how to lower my base and post with my arms.

Also people that suck to roll with. Black belts who sub you every attempt they make. It is hard to learn when you are the one who gets submitted 30 times in five minutes.

I just started in December, but the best for me to roll with are yellow belts who actually have to do some work to submit me and I have a fighting chance to counter moves and once in a blue moon I can submit them.
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:00 PM   #132 (permalink)
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I hate rolling with the people that "accidentally" put their fingers in your ears, grab single digits, rash guards, or in general use their hand illegally.

Also I hate rolling with the ig bguy who will pin you for a bit and just drip sweat onto your face and in your eyes. I mean how easy would it be to just move their head so the sweat doesnt fall in my face or to just progress their position and try to pull off a sub.
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:14 PM   #133 (permalink)

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Well coming from a wrestling background, I hate it when people ALWAYS want to start from the knees or guard with me, as if they'd get hurt from a light double leg. Especially when they don't even want to work on it, saying things like "oh I'll just be okay with the bottom." These are the guys who are going to end up in sidemount from some throw or takedown that would be a low percentage move on a JV middleschool wrestler. Besides, I love takedowns :-D

And the other guy I don't like is the Judoka who always talks about how Judo is so much better than wrestling, brazilian jiu-jitsu, and sambo.. I mean, if its so great, why do you have to constantly assert how much better it is? Insecure much? Stop insulting everybody's base and just roll.
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Old 03-06-2007, 07:50 PM   #134 (permalink)

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How the hell do you MOVE YOUR HIPS!?!?!? That's been my problem. 220 lbs vs. 280+ sux
im a 174 pounder and i had to wrestle the 230 pound hw and sometimes i had to wrestle the 285+ pound hw
that wasnt fun
just getting my base or getting sprawled on sucked
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:33 PM   #135 (permalink)
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Old 03-07-2007, 04:22 AM   #136 (permalink)

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Well coming from a wrestling background, I hate it when people ALWAYS want to start from the knees or guard with me, as if they'd get hurt from a light double leg. Especially when they don't even want to work on it, saying things like "oh I'll just be okay with the bottom." These are the guys who are going to end up in sidemount from some throw or takedown that would be a low percentage move on a JV middleschool wrestler. Besides, I love takedowns :-D

And the other guy I don't like is the Judoka who always talks about how Judo is so much better than wrestling, brazilian jiu-jitsu, and sambo.. I mean, if its so great, why do you have to constantly assert how much better it is? Insecure much? Stop insulting everybody's base and just roll.

Maybe its different for your club but in my club there isnt enough space for everyone to start standing so we have to start on our knees.
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Old 03-07-2007, 04:27 AM   #137 (permalink)
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FAT PEOPLE. The ones who are new and can only resort to smothering as an offense.
Try to tell that to the 250lb guy I smoked the other day. I love rolling with fat people. It makes you feel like you're David. Too bad they won't allow slings a stones in class.

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Maybe its different for your club but in my club there isnt enough space for everyone to start standing so we have to start on our knees.
Yeah, they always say that in class, but even when there aren't as many people, we still start from the knees. Of course, in judo we would work throws from standing, obviously, but when we were working ne waza, we'd usually start from the knees, too.
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:24 AM   #138 (permalink)

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Man, if you hate rolling with guys like me, you would hate even more to be me. It is not fun for the guy that has to use every ounce of strength and technique to get to a dominant position only to have it be swept away in the opponents first attempt. I have since figured out how to lower my base and post with my arms.

Also people that suck to roll with. Black belts who sub you every attempt they make. It is hard to learn when you are the one who gets submitted 30 times in five minutes.

I just started in December, but the best for me to roll with are yellow belts who actually have to do some work to submit me and I have a fighting chance to counter moves and once in a blue moon I can submit them.

I think he's more talking about the guys who literally just fall over in your guard, you know, knees real close together, and your pretty much holding them up. As soon as you try to transition to ANYTHING from a closed guard, they fall over. Very annoying
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