Greatest Half Guard Thread Ever

[Ninjamurf]

Originally Posted by MUFC

I underhooked his right leg with my right arm.

So kind of like a single leg from the bottom? That's actually how I usually describe finishing the Monson sweep...but by that time you should be so low that there shouldn't be any danger of getting your back taken?

[MUFC]

Originally Posted by Ninjamurf

So kind of like a single leg from the bottom? That's actually how I usually describe finishing the Monson sweep...but by that time you should be so low that there shouldn't be any danger of getting your back taken?

I think i just wasn't doing it right. I was really gassed by the time that roll went by.

Also, i don't have that "feel" for the position yet. Like, when you feel his base switching so you can go for the sweep. Gotta work it non stop.

[armtriangle]

Originally Posted by MUFC

I think i just wasn't doing it right. I was really gassed by the time that roll went by.

Also, i don't have that "feel" for the position yet. Like, when you feel his base switching so you can go for the sweep. Gotta work it non stop.

There is a definate danger in getting back triangled when doing the homer simpson sweep. Happened to me several times when I first stated working it.

I cannot tell you how to avoid it, except, don't be lazy with the finish.

[MUFC]

Originally Posted by armtriangle

There is a definate danger in getting back triangled when doing the homer simpson sweep. Happened to me several times when I first stated working it.

I cannot tell you how to avoid it, except, don't be lazy with the finish.

I think there were a few little things i was being careless with.

A) My training partner MAY not have been up on my shoulder and may have been more on my arm.

B) I don't think i was low enough on his leg.

C) When he shifted weight to try and take my back, i should have rolled into him and came up in top half guard. I did not move quick enough.

I think "A" and "C" were the biggest issues.

[MUFC]

Not sure if i can constantly update my half guard issues here, but here goes:

I didn't get my back taken from deep half guard tonight, but i did get slammed once. Dude was kinda new and could not pass. He grabbed my belt and lifted me and slammed me down. I came out the back door directly after.

I did have trouble with a reverse triangle just after sweeping. Will have to break down what i was doing wrong.

[esila]

Originally Posted by MUFC

I did have trouble with a reverse triangle just after sweeping. Will have to break down what i was doing wrong.

I've also been having more trouble than I should be after completing the Homer sweep. My problem is similar to yours, mine being they will attempt the armbar from the back after I go to my belly.

IOW, if I go deep half guard and trap their right leg, I home up to my belly towards my right. They then proceed to use that momentum to ride up my back and attempt a kimura / armbar on my left arm. The position I end up in is also susceptible to the reverse triangle you mention.

I've found to lower their percentages of attempting the armbar / climbing up my back is, prior to the homer, I trap one of their wrists (preferably towards the side you're coming up to your base in). In my case, since I'm bellying down towards my right, I not only have their right leg in deep half, I also grab their right wrist and pull the sleeve in tight so they can't base on that arm. Once I come to my base, I hold on TIGHT to that sleeve - it buys me time to reestablish position and makes it harder for them to start climbing my back because I took away one of his arms. Hope this helps!

[MUFC]

That is a detail i never noticed before. I think i'll try it out.

Cheers.

[J.Ro]

good stuff

[esila]

@5:07

Great knee cutter pass prevention here!

[sha]

I've seen deep half guard sweeps countered by triangles, armbars, and kimuras so many time that I'm starting to re-evaluate the usefulness of the traditional sweeps. Maybe taking the back or transitioning to other guard is the way to go ?