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06-04-2009, 10:23 PM
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#531 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by yovan
When you say "Get your head inside his", is this something needs to happen before he totally spins all the away from you?
I actually tried this recently but it seems I let my guy go past the point of no return.
Any tricks for regaining this position after he is facing your legs?
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if he is already facing your legs, then you still have options... don't leave your far arm behind to get kimura'd you gotta be aware of the kimura threat.
one thing you can do is grip his gi at the back of his tricep, and grip his gi pants at the knee, turn your legs to the opposite side which will lift his butt off the mat, and then backward roll over your shoulder, it's a tricky movement, you need to push his tricep down towards your legs and pull his leg up towards your head at the same time.
there is also a couple of options where you step over and trap the far leg and bridge them over, or even a backtake.
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06-05-2009, 01:14 AM
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#532 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by codemonkey76
any time when you think damn i can't move this guy he is too heavy... move yourself instead.
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when i try to scoot my hips under his i have trouble.....and when my legs are crossed the "normal" way and i try to scoot my hips under him and rock my legs back and forth that sometimes works.......keep in mind im doing this after i traffic cop and his hands are both flat on the mat........im REALLY good at taking the back from half guard with the under hook and im good at defending the cross face with the single paw and double paw....i use the wedge and get to the trafic cop ......then thats where im stuck.....if i get a sweep its like 30% of the time... im going to try eslia's suggestions next time i roll.....and if you have any more suggestions ill be happy to hear them  thank you
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06-05-2009, 01:20 AM
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#533 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by lebo-0937
when i try to scoot my hips under his i have trouble.....and when my legs are crossed the "normal" way and i try to scoot my hips under him and rock my legs back and forth that sometimes works.......keep in mind im doing this after i traffic cop and his hands are both flat on the mat........im REALLY good at taking the back from half guard with the under hook and im good at defending the cross face with the single paw and double paw....i use the wedge and get to the trafic cop ......then thats where im stuck.....if i get a sweep its like 30% of the time... im going to try eslia's suggestions next time i roll.....and if you have any more suggestions ill be happy to hear them  thank you
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if his weight is on his hands there is nothing stopping you from standing up... if i get them to the point where they have both hands on the mat, i either put x-guard in and kick out and stand and take them down, or just use a single butterfly hook to stretch em out and stand up and take down, similar to the pics aesopian shows earlier in the thread.
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06-05-2009, 02:05 AM
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#534 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by codemonkey76
if his weight is on his hands there is nothing stopping you from standing up... if i get them to the point where they have both hands on the mat, i either put x-guard in and kick out and stand and take them down, or just use a single butterfly hook to stretch em out and stand up and take down, similar to the pics aesopian shows earlier in the thread.
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cool thanks ill try that....i never thought to use a single butterfly hook....i must have missed that technique in the 54 pages of this thread...lol....i like this thread their is a alot of helpful techniques....ill keep training the half guard and let you guys know how its working...thanks again
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06-11-2009, 12:48 PM
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#535 (permalink)
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06-30-2009, 06:32 PM
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#536 (permalink)
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The first link doesn't work for me. BTW I'm new to this thread and haven't yet read through all 54 pages O.o but I wanted to hear everyones thoughts on something I use quite often with moderate success. Say, I have my opponent's right leg in half guard. Usually from here I transition to z guard bringing my left shin across his stomach and use this to create space between my opponent and I. I then tuck my right shoulder and roll into inverted guard. Once I invert I find it to be a pretty stable position with my right leg between my opponent's leg and my left leg hooking my opponent's right lat muscle. From here you can begin to work for triangles, etc.
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07-03-2009, 12:33 AM
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#537 (permalink)
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Today was the first time i actually felt comfortable in half guard. Feels good, never realized how easy it was to sweep after getting a knee on his hip and my underhook.
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07-11-2009, 02:06 PM
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#538 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Zankou
#2 is the exact same sweep I posted above. We drilled it again last night. And yeah, it's tremendously effective:
"Second is a way to defeat the overhook to brabo. As soon as the guy goes for the overhook, you bring your hand inside, clamp the overhook to your body, and do the "roll back" type sweep, grabbing his opposite leg/foot and driving your hips under, rolling him over. He will go flying. It's awesome!"
One of the keys seems to be that after you clamp, you really drive your hips DEEP under the guy towards the opposite side. The further the better. Then he has basically zero chance of avoiding a huge sweep.
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Hey guys! Don't know if it's been mentioned, but another variation is of this is where you grab this (whizzer) arm with both of your arms for a tighter clamp - forget the underhook leg! Created lots of opposite pressure and then roll him over this arm.
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07-13-2009, 08:51 AM
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#539 (permalink)
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This post is dedicated to the catch wrestling / crucifix headlock hold Lesnar had on Mir in their rematch.
While watching Mir vs. Lesnar 2, Brock was able to hold Mir down in a catch-wrestling style headlock. For those of you familiar with the standard holding position for top half guard (crossface plus far side underhook), imagine using your crossfacing arm, get it really deep, and that same arm grabs their far side bicep, palm down. Add a little torque to the hold, and you've got a crucifix-style cross face PLUS the added benefit of a far side underhook, all with one arm.
I couldn't help but compliment Lesnar and his camp the other night while watching the match - for Lesnar this was AWESOME for him due to the fact he had one arm totally free to pretty much rearrange Mir's face with strikes.
Has anyone here who trains utilized such a hold? As far as a pure grappling standpoint, anything else you guys have comboed this hold with? Submissions? Gi chokes?
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07-13-2009, 05:22 PM
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#540 (permalink)
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isn't it sort of a quarter nelson type position he was using
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