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Aesopian, have you gotten a video camera yet?
As much instructional stuff as you do, and with your detailed note keeping, you and a video camera seem like a match made in heaven.
Seeing brief clips of some of the things you've talked about in this thread (and others) would be golden.
Aesopian, have you gotten a video camera yet?
As much instructional stuff as you do, and with your detailed note keeping, you and a video camera seem like a match made in heaven.
Seeing brief clips of some of the things you've talked about in this thread (and others) would be golden.
No video camera yet but someone offered to send me one just yesterday. Aside from video tutorials (which I've wanted to do for a while), a friend and I were talking about how cool it'd be to keep a video journal where we can record what we're working as we go.
- One of the sweeps I got (I think on the first blue belt) was a hip bump of sorts from half guard. I kept going for wrist control, pulling his elbow over, attempting kimuras. He postured back and I followed him up and threw my hips up and switched them to sweep him over.
*raises hand frantically like child*
from the half guard kimura grip i like to try the hip bump sweep just to fuck with the top man's balance and create space. as he's recovering, i'll switch back to my full guard and continue with the kimura from a better position to actually finish the hold. i find lots guys, even like purple and brown belts, are lazy about defending the kimura from half guard because its hard as hell to finish...then suddenly you're in full guard and with a very good shot at sweeping or finishing the hold.
and for the next three months i'm going to work on 3 things-
1. playing guard to my weak side.
2. passing guard to my week side.
^^^these have been problems since i was a beginner and now as a purple belt they're getting more instead of less pronounced.
3. tomoe nage and the associated rolling armlocks.
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Professor Teco Shinzato and Leandro Silvestre (who I have never heard of before but don't care) put a series of short videos of his half guard game up on youtube. They've been around for a while but I never paid much attention since I wasn't working on half guard, much less the super deep kind he shows. But now that I've gotten a taste, I can see how it'd work.
I'm reposting the videos here for reference. I'm writing short descriptions because that's how I learn best from video: breaking it down and explaining what I see. I'll spot new details as I rewatch it over and over and try to figure out how to explain it.
- Starts with an underhook and grabbing the belt with his left hand. Ankles crossed on the outside of the leg.
- With his left arm, he reach through their legs and under their thigh, up by the hips instead of by the knee.
- Opens his legs, keeping his right foot on the back of their calf. Left leg steps out on the mat.
- Left hand moves from the belt down to grab the pants at the knee.
- Swings his legs and rocks his hips to the opposite side, carrying their leg on himself.
- Right arm comes down and hugs the trapped leg to his chest.
- Grabs their arm with both hands and traps it against their own thigh.
- Steps on the mat and rocks his hips back the other way.
- Rolls up on top and comes to his knees.
- From this angle, I see he's starting from a framing or double paw position, to keep the crossface off before he gets the underhook.
- Same sequence as before to get deep under the single leg. Traps the arm the same way.
- He doesn't explain it, but from looking, I think he rocks like he wants to go for the first sweep but they don't have their weight going that way. So he rock back and keeps trying to come out the other way and knocks them over.
- From this angle, I can see several things more clearly. He is putting his knee into their hip at the start to keep space. He does have a double paw. He takes the knee off the hip and his leg to give him momentum to sit up and bury his head against their chest as he gets the underhook. He gets his elbow high.
- Same entry to deep half guard under the single leg.
- He reaches down with his left hand and grabs their ankle and pulls it to him.
- He switches and underhooks the leg and keeps pulling it to him.
- His left calf goes on top of their thigh.
- He swings his legs down and pulls their leg to knock them back and rock up to get on top.
- Same starting position, same entry to deep half guard.
- Only this time, instead of hugging the trapped leg, he keeps his right hand reaching up through the legs and grabs the fabric on their back.
- His left hand swims under their knee as he opens his legs.
- With both arms under their legs, he turns into them as he comes to his knees and immediately passes guard.
- Same standard beginning and entry.
- Reaches behind his left knee with his left hand and grabs their pants.
- Opens his legs and lifts the knee in the air.
- Turn his hips to the front and swivels his knee under their leg.
- Keeps pressure on their shin with his left calf.
- Left hand grabs the fabric around their upper arm.
- Right leg lifts them, left leg knocks out their leg, right hand punches them up and left hands pulls their arm. Big circular motion with every limb.
- Comes on top and immediate gets out of half guard to pass.
- The usual.
- Once in deep, he brings his right hook under their ankle. His left ankle stays on top of their foot.
- He takes his left foot off theirs and puts it on the ground.
- He lifts their leg with his butterfly hook and passes it to the front.
- He drops them away from himself as he twists out to his knees.
- He keeps a wide base and hugs their leg to secure a top position.
What I find most interesting about these clips is how they're using the rocking motion of their hips to rotate the leg so they can get deep. They aren't trying to pull the guy on top of themselves. He naturally comes on top as they go deep and swing underneath him.
Those videos are awesome. But the only thing I don't like about them is that he starts off in such a deep half guard position, so that he's already pwning the guy. If you're that deep with the underhook, the guy is pretty much toast. It's getting that deep that is the problem.
I do like how he uses the "trapped" hand to grab the trapped leg and pull it over, as opposed to using both arms to ratchet the free leg over with a gable grip. That has real possibilities.
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Started digging up Jeff Glover footage. Found two of his matches in Nevertap where he's playing half guard. Grabbed some screenshots of the moments that interested me.
From his first match with John Ramirez.
The match starts with some hand fighting from standing. Jeff pulls half guard. Ramirez tries for head and arm and gets heavy. Jeff keeps sticking his hand in the armpit and gets the underhook when Ramirez tries to reach back. He gets deep using the swinging motion of his hips (like in the clips above), rocking back and forth a couple times and ducking his head to their hips.
He's slide way down the trapped leg and put in a butterfly hook. He has an underhook and the other arm reaching through the legs.
Ramirez ties to sit towards Jeff head and messes with the underhooking arm and his feet. You can see Jeff's other hand coming up through the legs and grabbing the back. Jeff's head is resting on their thigh and he's got the trapped leg elevated.
With their weight back because they're sitting, Jeff spins around their leg to come on top.
In his second match against Rafael Garcia, Jeff pull half guard from standing several times. He never sweep from half guard but he uses it to get the action going and then switches to butterfly and closed guard. He even plays some good half guard with an overhook and gets an omoplata sweep.
Jeff pulls half guard from standing and immediately dives under the far leg and spins under as while they're still standing. Garcia usually tries to do a cross knee pass but Jeff's able to stop it by swinging his hips under the leg and hugging either leg.
Got snapshots of the points of interest to me.
Jeff switches to putting his knee in the hips/stomach and stepping on the back of the calf when Garcia gets to closed to pull his leg out.
After creating space with his knee, Jeff switches to butterfly guard.
At another point in the match:
Jeff has deep half guard.
He grabs the ankle and puts in a butterfly hook and uses it to rock and lift them.
Garcia drops his hips and bases and Jeff switches back to half guard.
Aside from video tutorials (which I've wanted to do for a while), a friend and I were talking about how cool it'd be to keep a video journal where we can record what we're working as we go.
Looking forward to seeing some of the stuff eventually here.
I like this photo because it shows an aspect of the reverse DLR that I've never seen anyone explain well -- when the guy goes the *other* way, and you end up having his legs held in a "high open deep half guard" type position, or kind of a pseudo x-guard. Maybe a deep z guard .. naming conventions start to fail at this point.
If you grab the far ankle here, you obviously have a pretty sweet double ankle control type sweep. Otherwise, I think your option is basically to try to go to a deep half guard game. Finally, it seems you might be able to use the knee to spin back to guard.
In general, the "open" half guards (DLR/reverse DLR/shin guard/single leg guard) are not adequately explored.
I think I heard that Glover has an instructional that will come out soon, and it may help to explain his awesome half guard game.
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In the NHBGear thread about his half guard, Jeff did post that he'd recently filmed some half guard footage for an upcoming instructional. Not sure what it's called but I'm keeping an eyes peeled for it.
