[DOC WEBSTER]

Being active duty military,former bouncer for 5 years and having been involved with LEO's throughout the years, I highly suggest this type of training. I have been in scuffles where after submitting someone, detaining them then searching them, I have found knives and other items (ie pens, kubatons) that could have been used if the aggressor so chose to. When doing kajukenbo ground work my guys are taught to make an effort to detect such things. You may not have a situation where the opponent desides to use all the tools in his/her tool box. You have to train to be ready for anything. In combat you may be get into a range where the m4 or m16 is useless and have to transition to m9 etc. If you are not well versed in such tactics you may not come home.

Ps. Please avoid being an internet tough guy. You may not be as hard to reach as you think. No need for that crap. Come to think of it Sleddog aka Phillip Gelinas has a crew in Canada... oops Strike 1.
I make it a point not to disrespect others here on the site, please show the same courtesy. Ok, that being said. Enough - I wont respond to that type of crap again. Never know when you might be stopped at a trafic light and yanked out of your car wondering "what did I do?"

Peace
Doc

PPS. If you think your tough, I am very easy to find. LOL

[azjudoboxer]

Yes in my Daito Ryu AJJ class we grapple with weapons (sticks, knives, Bo staffs, Etc). DR AJJ also has armored grappling as well.

[TwIsTeD&BrOkEn]

We have done fun drills before where we start off grappling then a third man drops an escrima stick or a fake gun/knife on the floor while we are grappling- first one to get to it, can use it.

It really wakes you up. Ive done limited weapons training....its some scary shit.

[DOC WEBSTER]

Originally Posted by azjudoboxer

DR AJJ also has armored grappling as well.

Armored grappling? Is that like grappling with flack jackets on?
I havn't heard that term before.

[Jiu-Jitsu Cop]

As a LEO (cop) I practice weapon retention. Earlier in the post someone said can you draw a gun and get off a shot in 3 seconds, Yes a double tap. There is a video called surviving edge weapons where they talk about the distance a person can cover before someone can draw a gun from a holster and shoot. I say train every possible way but don't use loaded guns during grabbling.

By the way who wanted to know how to choke out a cop. I usually do not challenge people but if he wants to try he is more than welcome to try me.

Maybe I should change my name to Jiu-Jitsu LEO

[sambosteve]

Earlier in the post someone said can you draw a gun and get off a shot in 3 seconds, Yes a double tap.

I know oit can be done and people train specifically for it. I was just trying to illustrate a point that learning to grapple with weapons is a very practical skill.

[Keonici]

I usually simultaneously grapply 3 guys all of them armed, one with a gun, one with a knife and the other with a stick. WTF grappling with weapons?!?!?! IF the other guy has a weapon, he gets what he wants!

[VampireMonk]

Originally Posted by Waxwingslain

No.

I'm thinking I need to get good without weapons first.

no offense but sounds like an excuse,

the same one they make when not training, I need to get in shape first...

[TapOut67]

Originally Posted by DOC WEBSTER

Being active duty military,former bouncer for 5 years and having been involved with LEO's throughout the years, I highly suggest this type of training. I have been in scuffles where after submitting someone, detaining them then searching them, I have found knives and other items (ie pens, kubatons) that could have been used if the aggressor so chose to. When doing kajukenbo ground work my guys are taught to make an effort to detect such things. You may not have a situation where the opponent desides to use all the tools in his/her tool box. You have to train to be ready for anything. In combat you may be get into a range where the m4 or m16 is useless and have to transition to m9 etc. If you are not well versed in such tactics you may not come home.

Ps. Please avoid being an internet tough guy. You may not be as hard to reach as you think. No need for that crap. Come to think of it Sleddog aka Phillip Gelinas has a crew in Canada... oops Strike 1.
I make it a point not to disrespect others here on the site, please show the same courtesy. Ok, that being said. Enough - I wont respond to that type of crap again. Never know when you might be stopped at a trafic light and yanked out of your car wondering "what did I do?"

Peace
Doc

PPS. If you think your tough, I am very easy to find. LOL

You sound like a real jackass, asking others to avoid being the internet tough guy and your posts sound like your quite the keyboard warrior yourself.

This is an open forum and of course you will have all kinds of tough guy posts on here, the majority of the guys on here aren't over the age of 16, so don't take it personally and if you do then maybe you should move on.