[Amy Robinson]

I wrestled all four years, they used to have my ranking up in the achieves at themat.com, but I can't find it anymore. It was from 2004, one of the only years they ranked national high school girls, and I guess they cleaned out the achieves, and thats why its not there anymore. I was on JV fresh. and soph. year, and Varisty junior and senior. I made the national rankings Junior year.

Also, I know 4 girls total, have gone undefeated in PA- the first one in the early 90's, one in 1998, on another one around the same time as me from the boonies out in eastern PA. She was actually a senor when I was a sophmore, and I was actually the only person to defeat her, when I dropped down to her weight to face her at a Christmas tournament in 2003.

I've also heard that a handful of other girls have gone undefeated in the US, a few in MN and the others I'm not sure where.

[BJJWrestler]

you kind of evading the question.. so you won state? I already know the answer is no because they would make a movie about it if it was true. How were you undefeated...

And about the boner thing, the girls I have wrestled were nasty... no Kyra Gracie's lol

[Amy Robinson]

I'm not evading the question. I never said I won a state championship. My matches were all technically exhibitions, as PA is in the process of organizing a seperate championship system for women only. Other schools had the option of sending someone to wrestle me or not, since the matches didn't count toward thier PIAA records.

[KOU In3]

So does that mean that a lot of those matches were won by forfeit or that you wrestled their second string guys as their starter were wrestling in non-exhibition matches?

[RuleOfSteel2]

Originally Posted by Zion

Not many bro cause it is rare to come from a wrestling family and not just a wrestling family but a darn good one with so many past excellent wrestlers teaching the new generation all that needs to be know. The result are state championships.

I kinda of agree with you on technical issue that guys tend to relie on strength then being more technical. Though I will say to larger guys, smaller guys are techical as fuck! I face alot of them during my kickboxing days. They put more effort into it cause they were in a disadvantage in the strength department. It should be said to larger individuals to be more politically correct but the larger individuals are also getting more technical as well. Skills is the number 1 thing.

Now a 200 pound female kickboxer? Never seen one of them that large.

Dude, high school wrestling is full of boys with fathers that wrestled, older brothers that wrestled, cousins that wrestling, fathers that coach, older brothers that coach, etc.
It isn't "rare" to come from a wrestling family unless you only consider Okie St's Smiths, Sanderson, DiSabatos, Carrs, Churellas, i.e., the cream of the crop, then it is rare BUT this girl's family isn't one of them anyway. And it isn't like her family is chockful of ncaa legends or even all-americans; outside of her being a girl wrestler, her situation of having a wrestling dad & wrestling brothers is common.

[RuleOfSteel2]

Anyway, congratulations to her. Even if Alaska is a small state team wise, it is still quite an accomplishment.
And do those saying if she was in a bigger wrestling state like PA, Ohio, CA, NJ, NY, etc. she wouldn't even be varsity is sort of foolish, it isn't like every high school is filled with studs from top to bottom (like most other high school sports there are a few on the team & the rest are little above average to poor). I'm not saying she'd be a state champ or placer or even qualify for state in a state with deeper talent but that isn't proof she isn't a good wrestler, there are good wrestlers in those states that never even make it to state.

Say what you want about girls wrestling, their growing interest in the sport might be the only thing to save wrestling in the USA's college system, thanks to title IX & the quota zealots wrestling has been getting hurting for decades. Unfortunately, NOW & their ilk don't like the sport and so far have blocked attempts to label it as an emerging NCAA sport for women despite it has more international competitors than all other emerging sports and almost more if not more of an international history than the other emerging sports too.


edit: I don't agree with the state having two separate divisions and that applies to all other states. There are clear reasons for it in most team sports: length of game time, school size has more effect on number & quality of athletes available; but most individual sports can be one or two division. As of now I believe California is the only state that has one state division in wrestling (I think NY just switched to a two tier system but I might be wrong on that?) and if the state with the most high school participants can do a one division tournament every other state can do it too. At least merge down to 2 or 3 instead of the 4 or 5 that are in many states.

[Amy Robinson]

Originally Posted by KOU In3

So does that mean that a lot of those matches were won by forfeit or that you wrestled their second string guys as their starter were wrestling in non-exhibition matches?

I wrestled the starters in my wieght class of the schools that agreed to let one of there guys wrestle me (which was everyone, as no other high school ever refused). I won them all legit, with 15 pins, and I also had 8 matches won by points, that were shut-outs.

[KOU In3]

Nice work. Good job!

[Amy Robinson]

Originally Posted by RuleOfSteel2

Say what you want about girls wrestling, their growing interest in the sport might be the only thing to save wrestling in the USA's college system, thanks to title IX & the quota zealots wrestling has been getting hurting for decades. Unfortunately, NOW & their ilk don't like the sport and so far have blocked attempts to label it as an emerging NCAA sport for women despite it has more international competitors than all other emerging sports and almost more if not more of an international history than the other emerging sports too.

Ya, the NCAA doesn't regulate women's wrestling yet. Although the NAIA does, its a much smaller atheletic organization, and the colleges sanctioned by the NAIA aren't exactly "marquee" or well-known schools.

I beleive, as things are now, that a women can be on an NCAA-participating colleges' men's wrestling team, and compeat in for the NAIA, since the NCAA does not yet have a womens wrestling program. (If someone knows thats incorrect, please inform us.) Canada's version of the NCAA, the CIS also has a women's wrestling program, too. Which is why I'm planning on going up to Canada for college, as there are no NAIA participating schools anywhere near me, and going to OK State to wrestle for John Smith is out of the question without NCAA women's wrestling.

[RuleOfSteel2]

Originally Posted by ace98

Ya, the NCAA doesn't regulate women's wrestling yet. Although the NAIA does, its a much smaller atheletic organization, and the colleges sanctioned by the NAIA aren't exactly "marquee" or well-known schools.

I beleive, as things are now, that a women can be on an NCAA-participating colleges' men's wrestling team, and compeat in for the NAIA, since the NCAA does not yet have a womens wrestling program. (If someone knows thats incorrect, please inform us.) Canada's version of the NCAA, the CIS also has a women's wrestling program, too. Which is why I'm planning on going up to Canada for college, as there are no NAIA participating schools anywhere near me, and going to OK State to wrestle for John Smith is out of the question without NCAA women's wrestling.

Yeah, when the NAIA schools started up some women's teams they got a lot of support from USA wrestling unfortunately several other schools gave them empty handshakes and false promises.

Yes, women can join an NCAA men's wrestling team; however it is extremely difficult because that school is required to count her as a male participant because the NCAA doesn't recognize wrestling as a women's sport. That rule leads to a lot of conflict given wrestling & other "non revenue" sports have to fight for every roster slot. It's sad that an athlete, man or woman, can't at least practice with a team; just being in the room doesn't cost any extra and having a few extra bodies on a road trip to an open tournament isn't going to crush a budget.

I don't know if a women on a NCAA wrestling team can compete in the NAIAs. I have known of a few women working out with an ncaa men's team & just being part of the wrestling club competing in freestyle. Sadly, the NCAA has also stopped that a few times because of the quota system.

I do wish more schools would try to add wrestling for both sexes, given the growth at the youth & high school levels and the growth of NCAA non sanctioned clubs it is frustrating to see so many programs on the brink of being cut or just receiving little university support.