girl wins boys wrestling state championship in Alaska - Page 3

BJJWrestler · 02-05-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by King Kabuki

That's your opinion and you're more than entitled to it. I just think if someone posted that about you, you'd be affected by it (tough acts aside), simply because they don't know you from a can of beans, just as you don't know her. It's pretty easy to cheapen someone's title because of their gender. If this had been a guy, you'd probably be saying congratualtions without the "he won a title in a terrible state, so he'd probably lost in a better state" jive.

That just my opinion though.

Oh and Ace (Amy Robinson) went undefeated in Philadelphia, but I suppose that's another case of a shitty Wrestling state eh? Of course.

Yea.. about that. I'm sure she wasnt facing guys.. Amy can you verify this?

Zion I was joking about her winning nationals, she prolly wouldnt even be varsity in a decent state.

BTW a large majority of high school wrestlers dont want to wrestle girls, its a no win situation... if you win big whoop! you beat a girl, if you lose your a joke. I have had to wrestle two girls (pinned them both under 20 seconds) but I was very nervous before the matches. Some guys even refuse to wrestle girls. I like how Texas had the genders seperated. Hopefully im staying with in the boundaries mods.?

**King Kabuki** · 02-05-2006, 07:05 PM

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BTW a large majority of high school wrestlers dont want to wrestle girls, its a no win situation... if you win big whoop! you beat a girl, if you lose your a joke. I have had to wrestle two girls (pinned them both under 20 seconds) but I was very nervous before the matches. Some guys even refuse to wrestle girls. I like how Texas had the genders seperated. Hopefully im staying with in the boundaries mods.?

Yeah, but that's a chauvanistic perception. The way I see it a Wrestler is a wrestler, a fighter a fighter. If you as a Wrestler are afraid to deal with the issue of either winning or losing to a girl then that's your own insecurity that shouldn't be taken out upon the females whose only desire is to compete. And where Wrestling is concerned, many females have been forced to compete with males because of many places' desire to NOT seperate gender, as a way to discourage females from wanting to compete...constant humiliation from losing to males.

Personally I'd chose to look at it like that scene from the movie "Ghost Dog" where the gangster shot a female officer. And his ganster friend says "You just shot a broad!!" He responds "I shot a Cop, they want to be equal? I just made her equal."

Zion · 02-05-2006, 07:42 PM

Girls have placed in states before. Joey Miller placed 4th in her state of Oklahoma. Though I should say she had the same advantages of coming from a wrestling family, having a coach that is her father, wrestling since birth, etc. Plus I keep forgetting that there is no seperation between the classes (grades) A girl who is a senior does face boys that are freshmans.

Again, if the boys had the same advantages as these girls, basically they are becoming Olympian hopefulls, then they wouldnt win as much or placed in states. Still though girls wins against boys will appear but in much lesser state/amount.

NJCarder · 02-05-2006, 09:29 PM

How many guys do you think have that same advantage though...coming from a wrestling family wtih a wrestling coach as a father...Some of the most technical wrestlers i've ever competed against are female...when i train MMA i prefer to train wtih women over men...all it does is force me to have better technique...the other night I brought in my buddies girlfriend and she gave me all I could handle...of course shes a 200 pound kickboxer but none the less...I think women should be able to compete just as well as men but don't read too much into her winning state...she aint Ace

Amy Robinson · 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by King Kabuki

That's your opinion and you're more than entitled to it. I just think if someone posted that about you, you'd be affected by it (tough acts aside), simply because they don't know you from a can of beans, just as you don't know her. It's pretty easy to cheapen someone's title because of their gender. If this had been a guy, you'd probably be saying congratualtions without the "he won a title in a terrible state, so he'd probably lost in a better state" jive.

That just my opinion though.

Oh and Ace (Amy Robinson) went undefeated in Philadelphia, but I suppose that's another case of a shitty Wrestling state eh? Of course.

I'm actually in the Pittsburgh area, which is one of the best regions for wrestling in the US. I went 52-0 win 15 pins, and my highest national ranking was 2nd (high school women only ranking).

BTW- All 52 were guys, as they're weren't any other female wrestlers in the area. The only time in HS that I ever faced girls was at a few non-seasonal tournaments when girls from the eastern part of the state came to town.

Frodo · 02-05-2006, 11:09 PM

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I'm actually in the Pittsburgh area, which is one of the best regions for wrestling in the US.

Except for Penn Hills which, I am ashamed to say, always has a losing record. Maybe someday...

Zion · 02-06-2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NJCarder

How many guys do you think have that same advantage though...coming from a wrestling family wtih a wrestling coach as a father...Some of the most technical wrestlers i've ever competed against are female...when i train MMA i prefer to train wtih women over men...all it does is force me to have better technique...the other night I brought in my buddies girlfriend and she gave me all I could handle...of course shes a 200 pound kickboxer but none the less...I think women should be able to compete just as well as men but don't read too much into her winning state...she aint Ace

Not many bro cause it is rare to come from a wrestling family and not just a wrestling family but a darn good one with so many past excellent wrestlers teaching the new generation all that needs to be know. The result are state championships.

I kinda of agree with you on technical issue that guys tend to relie on strength then being more technical. Though I will say to larger guys, smaller guys are techical as fuck! I face alot of them during my kickboxing days. They put more effort into it cause they were in a disadvantage in the strength department. It should be said to larger individuals to be more politically correct but the larger individuals are also getting more technical as well. Skills is the number 1 thing.

Now a 200 pound female kickboxer? Never seen one of them that large.

Zion · 02-06-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ace98

I'm actually in the Pittsburgh area, which is one of the best regions for wrestling in the US. I went 52-0 win 15 pins, and my highest national ranking was 2nd (high school women only ranking).

BTW- All 52 were guys, as they're weren't any other female wrestlers in the area. The only time in HS that I ever faced girls was at a few non-seasonal tournaments when girls from the eastern part of the state came to town.

question 52 and 0? How come I couldnt find you anywhere. did you wrestle just one season?

SilencedGun · 02-06-2006, 01:10 PM

she is kind of hot looking. I wish I could wrestle her. is it legal to wrestle underaged cuties?

BJJWrestler · 02-06-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ace98

I'm actually in the Pittsburgh area, which is one of the best regions for wrestling in the US. I went 52-0 win 15 pins, and my highest national ranking was 2nd (high school women only ranking).

BTW- All 52 were guys, as they're weren't any other female wrestlers in the area. The only time in HS that I ever faced girls was at a few non-seasonal tournaments when girls from the eastern part of the state came to town.

did you wreslte JV or something? Cause I know you didnt go undefeated in varisty matches, you would be famous.