Fight Club Jiu-Jitsu Techniques [Videos] (6-11-2009)

[SpooNer]

Far side armbar from side control was a great vid, always looking for ways to finish from side control that helped a lot.

Spider Guard vids were good, we just started drilling that this week so gave me a heads up.

Thanks for the vids

[codemonkey76]

bump, new Cross Choke videos in the OP

[ItsArun]

Originally Posted by codemonkey76

how bout some comments on the techniques, guys.
Did you get anything out of the videos? do you do it that way? any other details you would add?
Discuss.

I noticed the spider-guard pass was very different than the pass I was taught (well, I was taught a few, but one in particular stuck with me and I've drilled it to moderate accuracy). When I'm in somebody's guard, aside from first shutting down their hips, I transition between 3-4 diff guard passes (depending on how my opponent changes his grips/guard). These are the double under pass, the torreando pass, the saulo ribeiro's x-pass, and the spider-guard pass.

In the spider guard pass I do (like every other pass I do), I never ever bend over/arch my upper body towards my opponent. I always try to stand up and base out diagonally (usually keeping one knee in between the legs). @ 1:40 in the video the instructor's posture was similar to that of a wrestler in a clinch (looked susceptible to triangle). Also, the instructor moved around to the side of his partner as if there would be no threat of sweep; I don't see how you could pull that off without controlling your opponents hips. Look @ his stance at 2:26; it looks as if only his leg is keeping him up. His partner can simply reposition his legs (one on the hip region to push) and pull the guy's last with his hand and tiiiimber. Then at 2:32 there is a point when he actually just "shrugs" the opponent's leg off to pass...IDK I guess I'm more of a pin/pressure on the hips/legs kinda passer.

Not to say this isnt or wouldnt be an effective pass, as I'm sure it is, I just know for somebody with my style of grappling that I would have to drill this 2138746182374618235341 times to pull it off. The reason I stick to the guard passes I mentioned above is that I only needed to drill them a couple of times and they STUCK like glue.

I enjoyed the other videos though, good stuff keep it up!

[codemonkey76]

Originally Posted by ItsArun

@ 1:40 in the video the instructor's posture was similar to that of a wrestler in a clinch (looked susceptible to triangle).

At this point in the video, it is before he is demonstrating the driving forward of the hips to correct that posture. It's like OK the guy has me in spider guard in this bad posture now step one drive the hips forward.

Originally Posted by ItsArun

Also, the instructor moved around to the side of his partner as if there would be no threat of sweep; I don't see how you could pull that off without controlling your opponents hips.

The moving from one side to the other was more to demonstrate the control the bottom guy has by extending one leg and keeping the passer in poor posture.

Originally Posted by ItsArun

Look @ his stance at 2:26; it looks as if only his leg is keeping him up. His partner can simply reposition his legs (one on the hip region to push) and pull the guy's last with his hand and tiiiimber.

At this point in the video he is standing on one leg and it is not a position you would pause at, but he is showing it slowly step by step, maybe he should have demonstrated it at full speed as well to clear up any confusion

Originally Posted by ItsArun

Then at 2:32 there is a point when he actually just "shrugs" the opponent's leg off to pass...IDK I guess I'm more of a pin/pressure on the hips/legs kinda passer.

when you do this pass at full speed, once you clear that first leg, you basically thow the leg to the side and advance to KOB, it works a treat.

[Jagcorps_esq]

Good job.

On that grip for the cross collar, the only thing I've seen different in the way that Roger does it is the grip with his second hand. He posts on his elbow but turns his hand back, putting one thumb in around the middle of the neck. Then he throws his arm over their head (like a clock choke or the oft used but rarely finished paper cutter from side...that's the best way I can think to describe it) coming to the cross collar position.

[codemonkey76]

Originally Posted by Jagcorps_esq

Good job.

On that grip for the cross collar, the only thing I've seen different in the way that Roger does it is the grip with his second hand. He posts on his elbow but turns his hand back, putting one thumb in around the middle of the neck. Then he throws his arm over their head (like a clock choke or the oft used but rarely finished paper cutter from side...that's the best way I can think to describe it) coming to the cross collar position.

I know the exact technique you are referring to and I added that as a variation when I was teaching it, but unfortunately didn't get it on video.

Also an extra detail on that variation to get the space is to pull up on the first grip to lift the guys head off the ground and then push the lapel back to the ground and you will create a space behind their head to get the thumb in. I actually like the way roger does it better, but it's harder to get that second grip in and it is possible to finish with only the shoulder grip as per demian maia's instructional... but if you get the other grip with the thumb in there is much more leverage for the choke.

[Jagcorps_esq]

Originally Posted by codemonkey76

I know the exact technique you are referring to and I added that as a variation when I was teaching it, but unfortunately didn't get it on video.

Also an extra detail on that variation to get the space is to pull up on the first grip to lift the guys head off the ground and then push the lapel back to the ground and you will create a space behind their head to get the thumb in. I actually like the way roger does it better, but it's harder to get that second grip in and it is possible to finish with only the shoulder grip as per demian maia's instructional... but if you get the other grip with the thumb in there is much more leverage for the choke.

Thanks for the additional detail.

I'll choke some people out in the morning, and as they begin to fade I'll yell out CODEMONKEY....in your honor.

[Cardio]

[quote=codemonkey76;31204580]Fight Club Technique Videos:

Techniques from 3rd of June, 2009

1. Transition from Closed Guard to Spider Guard
   
2. Transition From Spider to De La Riva and Sweep
3. Passing the Spider Guard

This is actually:

Closed guard -> Open guard -> Spider Guard -> De La Riva Guard -> Sitting Half Guard

Then depending on your grips you can -

a. finish as your instructor did
b. finish with any number of sitting guard sweeps (holding or not holding belt/lapel)
c. finish with single leg

Lotta guards and a lotta options - keep in mind there are multiple sweeps from any one of those guards. Not to mention - transitions to other guards (X guard, instep guard, etc.) and sweeps from those too...

[codemonkey76]

Originally Posted by Cardio

This is actually:

Closed guard -> Open guard -> Spider Guard -> De La Riva Guard -> Sitting Half Guard

Then depending on your grips you can -

a. finish as your instructor did
b. finish with any number of sitting guard sweeps (holding or not holding belt/lapel)
c. finish with single leg

Lotta guards and a lotta options - keep in mind there are multiple sweeps from any one of those guards. Not to mention - transitions to other guards (X guard, instep guard, etc.) and sweeps from those too...

I call that position single leg guard a la Robson Moura, and this is not my favorite sweep from this position, i prefer the rolling under sweeps where you pass a lapel or sleeve through their legs, i also love the instep / shin guard from here.

[MBGracieBarra]

Codemonkey, thank you so much for the videos! Good karma your way brother!