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05-26-2010, 09:31 AM
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*EDIT* False alarm, the standard guillotine is still allowed (outside of Australia)
... according to this thread, anyway:
MMA Underground Forums
It seems that from now on, only arm-in guillotines will be allowed. I realize that guillotines aren't the most common subs in competition with the gi, but can you imagine BJJ without, say, the threat of a standing guillotine? Double legs are about to get sloppier ...
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Last edited by Shemhazai; 05-28-2010 at 07:02 PM.
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05-26-2010, 09:41 AM
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Bending Joints the Wrong Way Since 1985
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It's illegal for kids, NEVER for adults. The rules are the same for gi and no-gi.
If there is going to be a rule change I don't want to think about it. That's a pretty dumb one.
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Last edited by Mikey Triangles; 05-26-2010 at 09:48 AM.
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05-26-2010, 10:10 AM
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From the thread:
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ok, this confused me so much i asked victor estima (braulio's brother) this question last night and i'm glad i did what with it being just before the mndials.
the guillotine choke WITH NO ARM IN is now ILLEGAL. for it to be legal an arm mst be inside. i asked him if i would get disqualified if i did a regular guillotine at the mundials and he said i probably would. he said this was a very recent change to the rules
personally i think it's a bullshit move by the ibjjf
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There's also a link to the ABJJF (Australia) website that shows that they've already added this to their rules.
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05-26-2010, 10:12 AM
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The AFBJJ regards the neck-only guillotine (ie, without an arm in) as a neck
crank in all situations.
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Thats some f**king bullshit.
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05-26-2010, 10:13 AM
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I have read this also, I reeeeally hope this is not true, because if they ban this, they will be banning arm triangles pretty soon, followed by darce's, etc and soon you will only have lapel chokes
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05-26-2010, 10:13 AM
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i don't get this one at all....
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05-26-2010, 10:15 AM
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I'm thinking someone needs to start up a competing organization that allows these moves and tries to attract the cream of the crop, IBJJF needs to get neutered for this.
First kneebars and toeholds, now guillotines? Why not make it a pillowfight?
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05-26-2010, 10:15 AM
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Oh hell no...
Hell no. What idiot could possibly, possibly think this was a good idea? Anyone?
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05-26-2010, 10:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BJJ Heroes
I have read this also, I reeeeally hope this is not true, because if they ban this, they will be banning arm triangles pretty soon, followed by darce's, etc and soon you will only have lapel chokes
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If they ban those im quitting, lol.
Whats next, banning pulling down on the head while you have a triangle?
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05-26-2010, 10:18 AM
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Brown Belt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russo93
Whats next, banning pulling down on the head while you have a triangle?
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Actually, that's in the ABJJF rules too, but only for white belts.
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