Eddie Bravo on Ari Bolden

[jonnyquick]

Originally Posted by Padlock

I talked to Drac about that as well...and from what I understood... no belt given will be recognized by any federation and you will not be recognized or able to compete as one of those belts.

I will put that to a test when I get it, I bet I will be able to compete with it and nobody will raise an eyebrow my way. Pan Ams here I come a Gracie Blue Belt

really I am just trolling my purple might get in the way of the blue belt division and I bet my coach would be pissed if I flew another flag

[BSFT]

Originally Posted by xMikeyX

It's not how you start it's how you finish!

Seriously- your first sentence explains it all to me. Stick with sub 101- all you'll ever need! Your opinion is as valid as your grammar!

good to go sherdogger! attack my typo instead of my logic. my opinion is just as valid to me as yours isn't.

[BSFT]

Originally Posted by jonnyquick

I will put that to a test when I get it, I bet I will be able to compete with it and nobody will raise an eyebrow my way. Pan Ams here I come a Gracie Blue Belt

really I am just trolling my purple might get in the way of the blue belt division and I bet my coach would be pissed if I flew another flag

i saw the ad for that course in a magazine a while back...made me wonder, 1st, seriously? 2nd, Bravo get's so much shit for "trying to make money", how is this "Gracie Correspondance course" any different, and why aren't the Gracies catching any?

[Frodo]

Originally Posted by BSFT

i saw the ad for that course in a magazine a while back...made me wonder, 1st, seriously? 2nd, Bravo get's so much shit for "trying to make money", how is this "Gracie Correspondance course" any different, and why aren't the Gracies catching any?

They did catch heat for Gracie University. Don't lump all the Gracies together, either. Many don't even know about it. You won't hear any of them publicly criticizing Rorion for it either. They are a strong family. However, one reportedly said that it is hard to learn the Gracie system without a teacher to watch and train with you. He suggested it is probably a good resource and did not put it down. But it is better to be in class to learn that stuff from an instructor.

[BSFT]

Originally Posted by Frodo

They did catch heat for Gracie University. Don't lump all the Gracies together, either. Many don't even know about it. You won't hear any of them publicly criticizing Rorion for it either. They are a strong family. However, one reportedly said that it is hard to learn the Gracie system without a teacher to watch and train with you. He suggested it is probably a good resource and did not put it down. But it is better to be in class to learn that stuff from an instructor.

i agree with that 100%, and most other people will too, however replace "Gracie" with "Eddie Bravo" or "10thPlanet" for doing something similar and all of a sudden Eddie = AntiChrist of BJJ

[awkwardpenguin]

But with all that wouldn't Ari be able to beat someone nogi who has about the same purple belt experience at a traditional BJJ school? Well no he can't. They say he's a technical purple belt but if he really knew everything at a purple belt level wouldn't he be able to apply it? Would you really want someone teaching you JJ nogi or otherwise that can't even beat someone with a years experience?

[Padlock]

Originally Posted by Frodo

They did catch heat for Gracie University. Don't lump all the Gracies together, either. Many don't even know about it. You won't hear any of them publicly criticizing Rorion for it either. They are a strong family. However, one reportedly said that it is hard to learn the Gracie system without a teacher to watch and train with you. He suggested it is probably a good resource and did not put it down. But it is better to be in class to learn that stuff from an instructor.

I know Carlos Gracie Jr. doesn't AT ALL..and said he will not recognize any belt from that particular program. Drac doesn't understand how it will work either. He said having an online training session is good..but awarding belts shouldn't be allowed IHO and I agree.

[Frodo]

Originally Posted by BSFT

i agree with that 100%, and most other people will too, however replace "Gracie" with "Eddie Bravo" or "10thPlanet" for doing something similar and all of a sudden Eddie = AntiChrist of BJJ

The difference is that Eddie Bravo is one man responsible for his own decisions. The Gracies are not a unified person, but a group of people each responsible for their own decisions and not the decisions of the others. A common misconception.

AFAIK, the first two Gracie affiliates weren't Brandon Quick and Ari Bolden both surrounded in controversy. That alone should tell you something. Eddie is a good teacher, but he probably made a few mistakes with his affiliate system. He's human. That's ok. But it doesn't mean you ignore those mistakes either.

[BSFT]

Originally Posted by awkwardpenguin

But with all that wouldn't Ari be able to beat someone nogi who has about the same purple belt experience at a traditional BJJ school? Well no he can't. They say he's a technical purple belt but if he really knew everything at a purple belt level wouldn't he be able to apply it? Would you really want someone teaching you JJ nogi or otherwise that can't even beat someone with a years experience?

"those that can, do. those that can't, teach."

imo, i'd rather be with an instructor that can pass along the information that will make me better, or help me to understand new techniques. i've been with a class with the really good grappler who just smashed everybody, but couldn't relay that information to make anyone any better, just "abu dhabi night every night"
The reason i go to a gym/mma class is to learn and improve, not just take a beating every night.

TS's post Eddie said, some guys just aren't competitors, does that mean they are not worthy of the rank? apparently in EB's opinion, it doesn't

[StoicDude]

I say give this all a break. I'm not a fan of 10th Planet, but people on here take this belt stuff too seriously.
There is no regulatory body in BJJ , although IBJJF is trying, so you can argue about belts and their "legitimacy" all you want.
If I get a JD or PHD, its easy to verify.
I hate when people say "legit ... Belt". According to whom?
Whenever I meet someone and they talk up a game, I say:" Let's roll.".At least I can see how that person does on the mat.

All the 10th Planet stuff has been very entertaining lately.