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06-30-2009, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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you know who i feel bad for? Eddie bravo's students.. The ones that paid tuition to him for years, blood sweat and tears with him at 10th planet for years. Represented him in tournaments for years and was family for years... Only to find out that all need to do is get an affilate to get your rank.... damm...
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06-30-2009, 11:33 AM
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#22 (permalink)
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Originally Posted by Tony Manifold
I have answered the question of what his JJJ is but no one seems to care. They would just rather bash and argue.
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Actually, Tony, although I appreciated what you said and how you said it, but what you said was just vague enough to be read in a couple of different ways. That's not meant to be a criticism.
For example, I responded to you and from the way I read it, I believe Ari's JJJ/AJJ BB to be a pile of shenanigans. An aikido guy who claims he does aikijujutsu from a teacher that no one's heard of, isn't known by the DR AJJ crowd and quite frankly, doesn't seem to exist. Is that about right? Your giving the benefit of the doubt because AJJ being fractured is fair, but real Daito ryu Aiki Jujutsu guys usually know their lineage all the way back to Takeda Sokaku.
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06-30-2009, 11:34 AM
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#23 (permalink)
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Purple Belt
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Originally Posted by xMikeyX
Eddie claims Ari is such a great teacher of 10th planet stuff and that makes him purple belt quality- but what about his terrible teachings of other arts?
Your sarcasm is cute here but I'm confused- are you an Ari Bolden supporter or a 10th planet supporter, or both or neither (neither=troll). Have you not seen him teach poor techniques and are you not worried that Ari is more about "creating" and selling techniques to make money than teaching an art?
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My point is that, who EB is 10P founder, likes how Ari teaches 10P, and credentialed him as he saw fit in EDDIE'S SYSTEM. let me explain IT'S EDDIE'S FUCKIN' SYSTEM! Read the post, he said that AB first came in, knowing his system, as a blue belt, EB rolled with him, and made him a purple. Ari's instruction in Judo, BJJ, JJJ, whatever has no bearing on what EB thinks of AB's skills IN EDDIE'S SYSTEM.
I'm a little of both, i like the system as i can apply alot of it to MMA, i use alot of EB's books and some of the stuff AB posts on youtube is helpful. In most of the clips i've seen, AB makes no qualms about saying "this is not the only way, this is the way I do it/teach it, check out _____ for another option" Some of the stuff he uses, i don't like/doesn't work for me/ won't work in mma, some of it does. I use what i want, don't what i don't, but try to steer clear from making blanket judgements. I really have no opinion on "AB's shitty Judo techniques" because I don't watch those clips since i don't use much judo in my game.
I also like the fact that wheneve/wherever i can go online and find some FREE technique clips, and a majority of them come from subs101. AB hasn't made any money off of me, just passed along some TTPs.
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06-30-2009, 11:37 AM
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Orange Belt
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 340
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Originally Posted by BSFT
My point is that, who EB is 10P founder, likes how Ari teaches 10P, and credentialed him as he saw fit in EDDIE'S SYSTEM. let me explain IT'S EDDIE'S FUCKIN' SYSTEM! Read the post, he said that AB first came in, knowing his system, as a blue belt, EB rolled with him, and made him a purple. Ari's instruction in Judo, BJJ, JJJ, whatever has no bearing on what EB thinks of AB's skills IN EDDIE'S SYSTEM.
I'm a little of both, i like the system as i can apply alot of it to MMA, i use alot of EB's books and some of the stuff AB posts on youtube is helpful. In most of the clips i've seen, AB makes no qualms about saying "this is not the only way, this is the way I do it/teach it, check out _____ for another option" Some of the stuff he uses, i don't like/doesn't work for me/ won't work in mma, some of it does. I use what i want, don't what i don't, but try to steer clear from making blanket judgements. I really have no opinion on "AB's shitty Judo techniques" because I don't watch those clips since i don't use much judo in my game.
I also like the fact that wheneve/wherever i can go online and find some FREE technique clips, and a majority of them come from subs101. AB hasn't made any money off of me, just passed along some TTPs.
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This is fine by me...but from now on you have to say you do 10th planet JJ...not BJJ.
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06-30-2009, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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"Empire."
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06-30-2009, 11:42 AM
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#26 (permalink)
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Purple Belt
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Originally Posted by Joey Burke
Eddie is a cool guy, but (why do so many posts about him start this way, haha) he should have had time to verify people's lineage if he had time to verify their affiliate fees cleared the bank..
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I once got contacted by someone who lives near me who wanted to do a joint venture and claimed he had distribution and funding ability that would enable him to put a product of mine on shelves. I was working 18+ hours a day trying to get things done and it sounded like an ideal partnership. Before I even considered his offer, I did some basic Google searches on his e-mail address and found that he was into weird porno, terrible music, scams, and bullshitting people on the internet about his capabilities. You have to watch your ass.
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in general? or specifically because of the weird porno?
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06-30-2009, 11:43 AM
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Orange Belt
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: SC but close to the NC border
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Originally Posted by xMikeyX
What does Eddie have to say about the videos of Ari showing bad Judo Techniques?
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yea because we've NEVER seen a BJJ black belt teach a bad Judo Technique nor have we ever seen a Judo black belt teach a bad armbar.
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06-30-2009, 11:45 AM
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Purple Belt
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Originally Posted by mesa
This is fine by me...but from now on you have to say you do 10th planet JJ...not BJJ.
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that's perfectly reasonable, i think that's what the logo says anyway
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06-30-2009, 11:47 AM
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#29 (permalink)
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Purple Belt
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Originally Posted by Gerbiljiujitsu
yea because we've NEVER seen a BJJ black belt teach a bad Judo Technique nor have we ever seen a Judo black belt teach a bad armbar.
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lol. btw, like your sig
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06-30-2009, 01:45 PM
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Purple Belt
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: P-Hill
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Originally Posted by Mattyno
I just don't understand, with the internet being the way it is, why the 10th planet people just don't stop talking.
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Exacly. The Gracie talked the talk and walked the walk. You wanna gain respct for the 10th planet shit? win fights and tourneys. Actions speak louder than words.
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