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If Judo has to be taught in most effective and competitive way, Japanese still got it. 'cause their judo IS the most effective, Look at Olympics game.
At Sidney 2000 : Japan 4G -2S -2B , France 2G-2S-2B.. then China, Cuba , Italy ...
Russia only 11th with 1S -3B
At Athens 2004: Japan 8G - 2S , Cuba 1S - 5B ... then China and Russia 4th 2S-3B
Russian and Est Europian are very good in Judo, but not better then French, Cuban and Chinese . Japanese are still the best overall.
I think the interesting thing to look at would be medals per participant in the countries. Also stylistically the French and Cuban are quite close to the Russians. When people speak of Russian Judo they could just as easily be talking of European Judo.
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Wrestling is not about strength. Wrestling is as much about technique as Judo. If this wasn't the case, all wrestlers would need to do to be good at their sports is to lift weights. But they practice as much technique as we do in Judo.
You think it is only strength because you have never wrestled.
I agree (I live in Japan and train Judo here)this film YouTube - ?? ?(1/5)???????????????? starting at the 4:50 mark they discuss the difference between Japanese and European Judo and talk about the problems that the European gripping tactics give many of the Japanese then starting at the 8:40 mark a Chidaoba match,which is a native Georgian style of wrestling,is shown.
What IS cuban Judo like?
Power? Wrestling based td's?
Mat work heavy?
Thanks in advance.
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If Judo has to be taught in most effective and competitive way, Japanese still got it. 'cause their judo IS the most effective, Look at Olympics game.
At Sidney 2000 : Japan 4G -2S -2B , France 2G-2S-2B.. then China, Cuba , Italy ...
Russia only 11th with 1S -3B
At Athens 2004: Japan 8G - 2S , Cuba 1S - 5B ... then China and Russia 4th 2S-3B
Russian and Est Europian are very good in Judo, but not better then French, Cuban and Chinese . Japanese are still the best overall.
Its hard to compare the effectiveness of European Judo to Japanese Judo based on medals alone. Japan has more people practicing the sport than any other country in the world. Japan has numerous (compared to anywhere else) well funded Judo programs and teaches the sport to kids at an early age. Judo is taught in P.E. class. Judo is even a collegiate sport there.
We expect Brazilians to sweep most high level not simply because they have better technique or are stronger than everyone else in the world but because there are far more practitioners there whom have far more experience than one would find elsewhere. Considering how recently BJJ was brought to North America I am surprised America produces high level players at all (some might debate that but I would say we do have a few).
If Judo has to be taught in most effective and competitive way, Japanese still got it. 'cause their judo IS the most effective, Look at Olympics game.
At Sidney 2000 : Japan 4G -2S -2B , France 2G-2S-2B.. then China, Cuba , Italy ...
Russia only 11th with 1S -3B
At Athens 2004: Japan 8G - 2S , Cuba 1S - 5B ... then China and Russia 4th 2S-3B
Russian and Est Europian are very good in Judo, but not better then French, Cuban and Chinese . Japanese are still the best overall.
you mention france, cuba and china but you don't mention korea
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Anyway.. Russian judo is influenced heavily by sambo WHICH was/is influenced heavily buy the various folk wrestling styles of the soviet republic along with classical wrestling.
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one could argue that russian/european judo is a much better fit for bjj competion than traditional japenese style judo. Look at their stances... it's just like a bjj stance. That's why i state/stated that sambo/european judo would help more for a bjj practioner than traditional japese judo.
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Basic differences are that russian judokas tend to stand with a bent over/lower posture and use alot of pick-ups and leg grabs.
Japanese judo has an upright stance and tends to focus more on techniques such as uchimata and others that are executed from a standing straight position and rely more on breaking balance than explosiveness.
It was also russian judo that introduced flying armlocks to international judo. The "russian grip" is where you reach over your opponents back and grab his belt with one hand. This is common in russian judo and allows for many pickups such as the khabarelli (spelling?)
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