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Old 03-20-2006, 12:30 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Difference between Morote Gari and single/double leg

Any difference between them? How to make them better?

I was doing a single leg MoroteGari. But this guy was coming from a more Judo background and who of course did not sprawl. It was then necessary for me to tap/hook back his leg slightly to tip over the balance[I could only hook a bit, virtually just a tap behind his foot coz I needed to consider my own balance too].
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Old 03-20-2006, 12:59 AM   #2 (permalink)

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well the way i understand the Morote Gari that we practiced at my Japanese jiu jitsu class it is a double leg takedown, if he was not sprawling, it should make it easier yes?
the proper way is to drive your shoulder, as you cup under their knees and lift into your opponent to off balance and tackle them down, its almost a rugby tackle of sorts hehe

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Old 03-20-2006, 01:20 AM   #3 (permalink)

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From my experience, in judo the guys don't tend to lead leg lunke like many wrestlers do, many just tend to have a square stance and a much higher level change. Most judo guys will have their face in your sternum when they do their takedown, wrestlers will have their head by your knee.
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Morote gare, is by definition a two handed reap against both legs.

And a "proper" morote gari is one where both of uke's feet come off of the ground, your reap the legs in on direction and your head pushes his body in the other direction. That shoulder tackle is just sloppy.
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:07 AM   #5 (permalink)

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morote gari= double leg takedown
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Morote gare, is by definition a two handed reap against both legs.

And a "proper" morote gari is one where both of uke's feet come off of the ground, your reap the legs in on direction and your head pushes his body in the other direction. That shoulder tackle is just sloppy.
According to judoinfo , a single leg is classified as Morote gari too. There is a relatively lengthy article on Morote in it but it is in.

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Tori uses both hands to hold Uke's one leg to execute Morote-gari.




While grappling with each other, Tori dashes into Uke's abdomen, drops his hip to take a right defensive posture. Then, he holds Uke's right leg and puts right shoulder against Uke's abdomen. He, then, rolls over Uke's body and throws down.

This technique is not the regular Morote-gari, but Kodokan Waza Study Group Department recognizes as a Morote-gari






Given the more upright stance in Judo, Morote should be easier. Why is this not more popular?

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Old 03-20-2006, 04:41 AM   #7 (permalink)

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It's not popular 'cause It's easy to reverse with a Tawara Gaeshi and get an Ippon or going to Tate shio gatame to controll or submit uke

http://judoinfo.com/images/animation...waragaeshi.htm


In Judo the single technique usually don't work. U have to use a Renraku (Counters of technique) to unbalance him like Sasae tsurikomi ashi to O soto gari and so on.

I have seen used to fake a morote gari and go for a Tomoe nage instead (when u try to defend morote gari u are in a Kuzushi (unbalance) for a tomoe nage).
Or a Kuchiki Taoshi (single leg ) to a O uchi gari.

Or a I have seen also used Kibisu Gaeshi (angle Pick)



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Old 03-20-2006, 06:37 AM   #8 (permalink)

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^ Nice post ^

Moroto gari is just another way of saying double leg. Way too many ways to call one technique.
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According to judoinfo , a single leg is classified as Morote gari too. There is a relatively lengthy article on Morote in it but it is in.

I quote:


Tori uses both hands to hold Uke's one leg to execute Morote-gari.




While grappling with each other, Tori dashes into Uke's abdomen, drops his hip to take a right defensive posture. Then, he holds Uke's right leg and puts right shoulder against Uke's abdomen. He, then, rolls over Uke's body and throws down.

This technique is not the regular Morote-gari, but Kodokan Waza Study Group Department recognizes as a Morote-gari






Given the more upright stance in Judo, Morote should be easier. Why is this not more popular?

Not too common because your opponent usually has a good grip on your collar and when you shoot in they jam you down.
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