I was in my college class when this football player that is well known for being crazy and basically a real hardass stated talking about how he can't be chocked out. I knew the girl that sat next to him and she brought up that i do mma. Now I am not "friends" with this kid but i know who he is and he knows who i am if you know what i mean.

SO i bet him 20 dollars that i can choke him out... moron accepted. We waited until the period was over and went into one of the bathrooms. I told him that i will try to get him in a rear naked choke and he said ok ... so i told him to get on his knees and he did i put in a tight regular rear naked choke grip on him... without hooks as i was standing in back of him while he was on his knees.
Now this is what happened oh and by the way there were like 3 other kids in the bathroom while i was doing this. One of my friends came to watch (also does mma). So i apply the choke and he taps out, i said do you want to stop , the kid said no "you almost had it try again". So i did and ok i held the grip for like 6 or 7 seconds and nothing happens, then i see his arms shaking and rising up from his sides... I have never chocked some one out before so i thought he was joking and i did it harder. I look at my friends face and he is dead seriously pointing at this kid. I suddenly think of that it could actually be real (his reaction) and i let him go.
The second i let him go his hands hit first because they were out in front from the shaking rememeber and then he bounced off and hit his forehead and they bounced one more time so that his face was sideways. I move from the back to get a lateral view and he just starts like having a ceasure and shaking and i couldn't see his pupils in his eyes... he was making like grunt noise like a pig or something......
I freak out and start shaking him violently and throw water on him.. eventually he walks straight out of the bathroom comes back in, walks to the back of the bathroom sees me and asks " where am I" so i told him and he immediately remember, gave me my money and said " thanks for chocking me out" and i said anytime.
SO what i want to know is how much longer until i would have killed him... How much less should i have held for just a sleeper type effect...and like after i woke him up he got right up and i thought he was going to hit me, do you think anyone would ever get chocked out or knocked out and wake up again and right then be ready to fight? Also he hit his head hard against tiles.. how much force do you need to get a concusion and is it possible to get one from falling unconsious to the ground from your knees. One more thing the second time i held the choke for a total of about 10 seconds.