Brandon Quick (outspoken bravo student) challenged in the UG

[Balto]

These parents are pretty delusional if they ever believed that the general BJJ community would accept an 11 year old blue belt/shirt on face value.

But it is usually the naive ones who get duped in the first place. It is clear from the posts that the parents don't have much knowledge of BJJ or the martial arts. However, this is a common situation, and it is why people like Brandon need to be exposed as frauds. Even if people aren't very savvy about BJJ, it doesn't make it okay for someone to take advantage of that and rip them off.

Brandon is a dirtbag, plain and simple.

[350 lbs fist]

What a douche!

2 of his students had to find out the hard way why slicers are dangerous subs even in training.

And acting like a douche to the parents too. Jeez.

[kaneda33]

heres what i dont get, why all the bashing and miss information about this guy(aside from the kids doing bicep slicers and reports from the parents if its true)

1) isnt the video(which now not available) of him competing at naga in the expert devision? so wouldnt that lead you to believe that he atleast thought his brown belt was legit? i mean isnt expert for browns and blacks only?

2) why do people keep saying (specifically you brabo) that he lost all 3 matches and that the ref raised the wrong arm. he won by submission and here is the ref commenting on what happened. http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma....1458088&page=8

Hey Brandon, I was your ref for the day.

This is how I saw it. I saw Brandon a number of times throughout the day. I had no idea who he was but he caught my eye because I thought he looked kind of nervous. When he got to my ring the crowd watching tripled and a few of the other reffs came over to check out the action. When I compete I get a good sized crowd watching but not like that, I would have been nervous too.

To the best of my recollection (after a 17 hour work day) for the first match he came out really aggressive with several leg lock attempts, eventually catching one for the win.

The second match was against a big athletic kid that got the first round bye. The calf slicer attempt was a horribly bad choice and the kid ended up transitioning to a very nice knee bar. (everybody makes mistakes sometimes)

The last one Brandon didn't have much left and ended up getting subbed. I don't know if it was from the knee or the pressure of the day, but he didn't have the same intensity that he started with. (just my unbiased opinion of what I saw)

That being said Brandon was very respectful to me and everyone else that I saw he had contact with that day. As a black belt myself, I know there is a lot more pressure to preform especially against a lower ranked guy. That is why most "top" level guys sit back on what they have done and never put them selves out there to fail.

Even though he didn't fair well for the day I personally have a huge amount of respect for Brandon just for getting out there and competing. If you don't run your own program and have a large number of students and friends expecting you to win every time, you have no idea what he went through that day. Coaching students while they fight is much harder than competing yourself, and doing both on the same day extremely tough.

Brandon best of luck to you and I hope to see you back out there next time around.

so he won one and then had to go up against some guy who had a bye in the 1st round and went on to win the devision and during that match BQ hurt his knee and in the 3rd he went out on his injured knee and tried anyhow.... and you guys say from watching that video that hes barely a blue belt and horrible and all this other shit?



i just dont get it.

but again if that shit about the kids getting injured is true its pretty shitty

[batman69]

"To the best of my recollection (after a 17 hour work day) for the first match he came out really aggressive with several leg lock attempts, eventually catching one for the win."

am i losing my mind, watching the wrong fight, or what the fuck. i watch the match and i don't see a leg lock finish and i see brandon losing by points(once again, i think there are a lot of points scored by brandon for submission attempts, that i personally wouldn't have awarded, that the video doesn't capture the ref giving out. in that case it's a win on points by brandon. that's the only way i can score this with him ahead at the end. it's not a win by submission.). this has fuck all to do with bashing him, as i don't have to bash him over a poor performance on the mats. his prevarication about his belt, his training, and possibly his military experience does that for him all on it's own.

by the way, this video is why i try and steer clear of arguments with people i don't know, and keep them to people i know i can have rational discussions with. the pro quick folks use this video to prove he has skills since he won at least one in the experts division, no matter how sloppy. the anti quick crowd looks at the video and says it's all bullshit because he moves like a white belt, who gives a fuck if it's a win, and it's not even a win(i'm not saying it's not a clear cut loss, i just want clarification on how it was scored, which looks to be hard to get since the ref is saying he won by submission, which the video shows did not happen.).

[jonnyquick]

Originally Posted by forumnewb

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JUST FYI – in the short time that Brandon has had his gym, this was the second arm that was broken, the other break was to an adult and I believe it was from the same move. Remember, Brandon told the class “ see what happens when you don’t tap” well after a few parents questioned Brandon over this move being allowed, Brandon decided to stop teaching the move and it is no longer allowed in his gym.

kid should of tapped that's the facts. I hate rolling with people thats pride keeps them from tapping, also other dude should of let the submission go when the idiot would not tap. Do you have moves that are not allowed in your gym?

The only arm break in our gym I have seen was when my Buddy Donny hit me with a spinning back fist and broke his own arm on my head

[kaneda33]

Originally Posted by batman69

"To the best of my recollection (after a 17 hour work day) for the first match he came out really aggressive with several leg lock attempts, eventually catching one for the win."

am i losing my mind, watching the wrong fight, or what the fuck. i watch the match and i don't see a leg lock finish and i see brandon losing by points(once again, i think there are a lot of points scored by brandon for submission attempts, that i personally wouldn't have awarded, that the video doesn't capture the ref giving out. in that case it's a win on points by brandon. that's the only way i can score this with him ahead at the end. it's not a win by submission.). this has fuck all to do with bashing him, as i don't have to bash him over a poor performance on the mats. his prevarication about his belt, his training, and possibly his military experience does that for him all on it's own.

by the way, this video is why i try and steer clear of arguments with people i don't know, and keep them to people i know i can have rational discussions with. the pro quick folks use this video to prove he has skills since he won at least one in the experts division, no matter how sloppy. the anti quick crowd looks at the video and says it's all bullshit because he moves like a white belt, who gives a fuck if it's a win, and it's not even a win(i'm not saying it's not a clear cut loss, i just want clarification on how it was scored, which looks to be hard to get since the ref is saying he won by submission, which the video shows did not happen.).

where can you still see the video?

i saw it when it was still available and i thought the match ended before time was up and BQ was on his back but you couldnt see the submission.

i am neither for nor against this guy
this is an honest unbiased opinion.

[forumnewb]

TXMMA.com - The Home of Mixed Martial Arts in Texas Forums-viewtopic-Belt Drama

"Well.... I thought I was done but I've got WAY more to say.

First of all, thank you to all the REAL 10th Planet guys who have reached out to us the way that you have. My boys have worked hard for their blue belts and are devastated that they mean nothing now. But as I told BQ, they were champions before they trained w/him and they will continue down that path. Incidentally, he felt compelled to send me a nasty, tasteless, mean spirited "private message" so all of you wouldn't see his true colors and trust me...it ain't pretty.

It's interesting to me that he is now going to some mysterious BJJ affiliate out of state to "legitimize" himself since he has always trashed BJJ w/all his talk about no gi and made reference in his message to me about us "returning to mediocrity". Funny isn't it? BJJ is all he has left and he's too chicken to find legitimacy locally. He's not from TX but he's getting a taste of how we don't put up w/deceit and taking our money.

With regard to Hunter getting his arm broken...at the time it happened, my husband I were absolutely incensed that it even happened first of all, then even more upset by the way he handled the family. Because of our background in this sport, we made issue of the move being too advanced, voiced our concern regarding the safety of our children. Brandon was offended that we would even question this and called me a "drama creator". Mark wanted to pull our boys out then but Brandon assured me at a private meeting (that I requested w/him) that they wouldn't be using that technique anymore. He went on to insist that this was not the first time to teach kids and that he knew what he was doing but has yet to tell me where it was that he taught kids....man up Brandon! He was smooth and made me believe him so we reluctantly stayed." - layneandgrahamsmom

"if he was hatefull and mean spirited you could always post his pm on here by cut and paste." - stumpan8

"You are absolutely right, I know, but he's done a pretty good job of burying himself don't ya think?!!! He knows what he said. It was pretty stupid to send me a message like that...the worst part of it was he closed it with, "I am trying to follow Christ"...he must know a different God than I know." - layneandgrahamsmom

[SpunK238]

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[bowened]

Originally Posted by jonnyquick

kid should of tapped that's the facts. I hate rolling with people thats pride keeps them from tapping, also other dude should of let the submission go when the idiot would not tap. Do you have moves that are not allowed in your gym?

I really hope you don't instruct a kids class at your gym.

[DK Radar]

There aren't any really illegal moves at my gym, but we're not learning for sport, we're learning in a self-defense aspect. I haven't heard of any breaks, choke outs, or anything at my gym for the 2 or so years I've been there. The closest thing was a guy pulling his hamstring off the bone, but that wasn't even from a submission.

I think that many of these places now a days, including the gym we're talking about here, don't value the discipline and all that, which is important to learn in martial arts. I think most of the people starting martial arts today are just the people that want to be UFC fighters, or whatever the case, and aren't there to learn about themselves and all that type of stuff.
That's the reason I love my gym a lot, because there aren't any tapout kids running around cranking heel hooks and all that type of stuff.