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Old 02-20-2009, 12:32 PM   #31 (permalink)

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see that is what happens to me constantly, I have given up that pass for that exact reason.
The pass can work - just just need to control the hips as well.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:33 PM   #32 (permalink)

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I am white belt, and of course I can/will ask my instructors for clarification but, how do you feel about pushing your forearm into your partners neck when they are on top of you in side control as a way to create space?
That's perfectly acceptable.
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:38 PM   #33 (permalink)

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i have jaw problems from a hockey injury and it sucks when they squeeze when going for the RNC. most of the guys know about it so im usually fine.
I have similar jaw problems. I don't expect my rolling partners to remember my medical issues. When someone gets me around the jaw with an RNC attempt that's tight enough to hurt my jaw, I tap.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:08 PM   #34 (permalink)

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see that is what happens to me constantly, I have given up that pass for that exact reason.
Usually when people do the "elbow in thigh" break, they should be doing the "knee-in-butt" break instead. There is a big different between the two breaks, but they look the same to noobs, which is why they try to pry open the elbows so much. I used to have given up on that knee-in-butt break, but now it is one break I use a lot!
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:26 PM   #35 (permalink)

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Usually when people do the "elbow in thigh" break, they should be doing the "knee-in-butt" break instead. There is a big different between the two breaks, but they look the same to noobs, which is why they try to pry open the elbows so much. I used to have given up on that knee-in-butt break, but now it is one break I use a lot!
The knee-in-butt break is a very good break. As Frodo pointed out, it just has almost nothing to do with digging your elbows into the thighs.

The proper guard break involves controlling your partner's hips and using your own hips to generate the necessary pressure. Using your elbows in the thigh is much weaker and won't break the guard against anyone good. Although technically legal, it is not something that you want to be using during rolling because you won't make any progress.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:50 PM   #36 (permalink)

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The idea behind the post is good. Keep in mind that many if not most beginners(and even not-so-beginners) throw all of this out the window.

The big thing to think about is that jiu-jitsu is a martial art that is centered around using proper technique rather than relying on being stronger or tougher. What's the point of smashing someone purely with your superior strength? You might as well just lift more weights. It never hurts to be strong and in shape, but that's not what jiu-jitsu is about.

With that, remember that training in a courteous manner with the idea of jiu-jitsu rather than winning in mind will also help keep you and your partners injury free.

Finally, wash your gi and yourself. Don't be Mr. Stinky Disease.
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:40 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Tapping is a very important skill to learn. When you tap, tap your partner repeatedly with your free hand hard enough that he can feel it. Do not tap the mat because your partner may not hear it. While you are tapping, say “tap” in a clear voice at the same time. Tap as soon as you begin to feel the effects of a submission. Do not wait until the last second to tap. Do not cry out in pain at any time unless you intend to tap.
Perhaps add something like the below to the tap section:

You must pay attention to your training partner and let go of any hold or position if they tap you, tap the mat, say tap or make a yelping noise. Note that some people will tap with their leg against the mat if they cannot use their arms or voice to tap (e.g. caught in a collar choke from the crucifix).

Also, if you have an issue with something your training partner is doing, stop the roll and talk to them about it.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:31 PM   #38 (permalink)

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As a noob I ask:

When should I ask a question? After I get subbed and I want to know how to get out/avoid?
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:55 PM   #39 (permalink)

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As a noob I ask:

When should I ask a question? After I get subbed and I want to know how to get out/avoid?
It depends on who you roll with. Some people hate answering questions all the time. Others only want you to ask questions the roll. It depends if they are training for a competition or not, too. Usually I don't mind questions at all as long as you aren't going overboard.
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:09 PM   #40 (permalink)

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Thanks to the OP for this! As a guy only about 2 months in, I personally struggle with going '50-75%'. I often find myself going balls-out and have to try and chill. I'm fortunate that the guys at my club are a decent bunch and always point out things to help and such.
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