BJJ Rolling Guide for Beginners

[throwchoketap]

i have jaw problems from a hockey injury and it sucks when they squeeze when going for the RNC. most of the guys know about it so im usually fine.

[pittfrog]

I'm not opposed to elbows in the thighs being allowed for rolling. That said, it is annoying, and doesn't work for opening guard vs anyone decent.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by I Am Korean

Grabbing and twisting the foot does not always=heelhook...

I clarified with "heelhooks/twisting leg locks". That should cover the other instances such as twisting kneebars, etc.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by pittfrog

I'm not opposed to elbows in the thighs being allowed for rolling. That said, it is annoying, and doesn't work for opening guard vs anyone decent.

Every move in the sometimes allowed list is legal in BJJ competition at some level. It is not really the fact that the moves are illegal that they got grouped into that category. It has more to do with the fact that a lot of people don't think they are good to use during rolling, even if they are technically legal.

When you see someone digging the elbows into the thigh to break guard, you think to yourself "Man, why is that guy trying to do that? Doesn't he know that isn't a very useful technique? He's never going to learn to break the guard if he keeps trying that all the time." I don't think you want to strive for that kind of reaction during rolling even if the move is technically legal, which is why I placed it in that category.

Basically, you do not want to be known as the elbow digging, face choking, gi smothering new guy. People are going to think that you are a hopeless spaz, even if technically all of those moves are legal under the BJJ rules at every level.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by MIGUELOCO

This is good, someone should sticky this.

After crossfacing is moved to always legal of course

I updated the part about crossfacing accordingly.

I put light/moderate crossfacing into the always legal category, and I listed hard crossfacing as being in the sometimes legal category.

[UFC_Lightweight]

Very Good Post!

[BJJ Beginner]

I would move neck cranks and heel hooks into the "sometimes allowed" category, along with a clarification that they are legal at certain levels of no-gi BJJ but are usually illegal in the gi.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by BJJ Beginner

I would move neck cranks and heel hooks into the "sometimes allowed" category, along with a clarification that they are legal at certain levels of no-gi BJJ but are usually illegal in the gi.

The guide only applies to gi BJJ. I have a sentence in the first paragraph that indicates that the no gi rules are different and are not covered in the guide.

[James Fuller]

Originally Posted by MIGUELOCO

I guess, I only crossface in no gi.

Also I don't use the elbow pass, but I feel like its fine, I just end up locking on a triangle when they do.

see that is what happens to me constantly, I have given up that pass for that exact reason.

[pittfrog]

Originally Posted by Balto

Wyou think to yourself "Man, why is that guy trying to do that? Doesn't he know that isn't a very useful technique? He's never going to learn to break the guard if he keeps trying that all the time."

That's exactly what I think. Anyway, great post and discussion.