[Sambo234]

Originally Posted by blanko

his jiu-jitus was terrible compared to a brasilian black belt. In retrospect, he would have been one of the best non brasilian jiu-jitsu practioners in the world outside of brasil.

not one of the best, I'd say top two even! it was just him and ed o'neil

[Travis Trayer]

I got a couple similar stories. When I was a judo white belt, I took third in the open white blue belt tournament at naga worlds. Later that summer I won the lhw middle weight open skill division beating two purple belts. Still as a judo white belt.

Edit* I'm not being sarcastic. Those things happened in my first year of competition.

[georgejjr]

BJJ'ers spend more time on the ground, and it shows - in general they have better ground skills.

Judoka spend more time standing, and it shows - in general they have better throwing skills.

What a surprise

Around here, when judoka and BJJ'ers grapple without specific rules, it's almot always a stalemate - the judo folks are too smart to go to the ground with BJJ'ers (so they do a lot of foot sweeps and throws like that which leave them on their feet), and BJJ'ers lack the takedown/throwing skills to force the judoka to the ground. We used to get a lot of boring stalemates, until we did the flip coin rule - heads means stalemate gets both standing, tails means stalemate means both have to go to the ground.

The crosstraining incidently has worked wonders - the judo folks are getting better at the ground, the BJJ'ers better at throwing.

[GuardGame]

Originally Posted by azjudoboxer

Doesn't BJJ always claim that it's superior especially against bigger stronger opponents?

Shut the fuck up. Its different when BOTH people know about the ground game..for instance...if a 155lb guy and a 180lb guy are equivilant to each other in the ground game..who wins? THE BIGGER GUY....same story if the 155lb guy knew a little more on the ground than the 180lb guy..the bigger guy wins.

go away judo nuthugger/troll

[Q mystic]

I have seen a 160 lb judoka bb go thru 180-230lb judoka bb's like butter. Standup and ground.

Good honest post, Sambo, that you tell and did it without insulting or slaying any style. Cool.

I am not convinced, yet, of bjjs complete ground superiority tho. Lets just say I think it still needs to be seen consistantly at a high level. I know they work more ground just not sure if I like the back fighting idea as much as top control. I have just heard of too many judoka doing well at ground fighting bjjers. I don't know what <3 means.

P.S. I put more value at just being on top than I think alot of others do. I mean wrestling imo has some awesome ground as well and none would have even subbed you. So I see it more as wrestling with subs....judo ground that is.

[Afro thunder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oftQx...&search=kuwait
Bjj vs judo in kuwait

im was in same situation, the black belt pinned me the whole session i rolled with and americana and kimura and gi chokes from pin.... i really got to learn pin counters

but rubber guard and stuff, i wouldnt even try it, in judo tourneys, it will never happen so i cant be happy to tap a dude in a rubber guard durin a judo randori, most of my taps i got on a judo guy, i will never be able to pull off in a tourney

o yea, QUESTION

if you get a triangle on someone, they lift me and slam me.... would that be considered an ippon ina tourney? (SERIOUS QUESTION)

3 different browns slammed me...... is it ippon or a move you do so the refs break it up? serious

[MMA-Persia-BJJ]

Originally Posted by chdnny

im was in same situation, the black belt pinned me the whole session i rolled with and americana and kimura and gi chokes from pin.... i really got to learn pin counters

but rubber guard and stuff, i wouldnt even try it, in judo tourneys, it will never happen so i cant be happy to tap a dude in a rubber guard durin a judo randori, most of my taps i got on a judo guy, i will never be able to pull off in a tourney

o yea, QUESTION

if you get a triangle on someone, they lift me and slam me.... would that be considered an ippon ina tourney? (SERIOUS QUESTION)

3 different browns slammed me...... is it ippon or a move you do so the refs break it up? serious

I dont know much about Judo (as i have just practiced Jiu Jitsu in my life) but i was under the impression that in a judo tournament when a judo guy lifets you off your back like that (when your attempting a submission) it is then started standing again.

[mr. tadashi]

Originally Posted by chdnny

if you get a triangle on someone, they lift me and slam me.... would that be considered an ippon ina tourney? (SERIOUS QUESTION)

3 different browns slammed me...... is it ippon or a move you do so the refs break it up? serious

If a person would get picked up in a tourney the refs would break it up and if the person dose slam the other person down they get DQ'ed. That is under the standard rules.

Originally Posted by MMA-Persia-BJJ

I dont know much about Judo (as i have just practiced Jiu Jitsu in my life) but i was under the impression that in a judo tournament when a judo guy lifets you off your back like that (when your attempting a submission) it is then started standing again.

i had it though.... it was fully on and i had him in an armbar....

i know about the lifting, but i was under impression it meant while i try to slap one on, he stands up its over....... not when its fuly on

and he slammed me.... was wondering if slams on my shoulder area was still consider an ippon or some shit.... IF in bjj i would be pissed cuz i landed on my dome like 8 times... 3 different browns did the same thing so im guessing ether they didnt know how to escape or its a rule to slam my ass

one thing was sure, they didnt want to TAP!!!