[Luther]

Back in the days we thought it wasn't possible to finish consistently arm-in guillotines.

The sport evolved.

Now you see even more such submission, because of the improved technique and harder time defending.

But my question is:

Is arm-in guillotine a good submission against a stronger, larger opponent?


My answer is NO.

I'm a purple belt, and I've been able to submit larger/stronger guys much more times with the standard guillotin.

Is it just me or I'm onto something?

Thanks for your feedback.

[GracieStudent]

arm in is an art, just like North SOuth choke

[FWTG]

I find the arm in easier against huge opponents. I remember getting it multiple times on a 230 pure muscle non-noob before and im 170 so it definetly works on larger opponents.

I think the arm in variation is much harder to escape than the standard guilitine.

[blink_man182]

Ask joe stevenson. Wasn't his last win an arm in guillotine against a much bigger opponent. Of course Joe isn't weak by any means.

[Luther]

Originally Posted by blink_man182

Ask joe stevenson. Wasn't his last win an arm in guillotine against a much bigger opponent. Of course Joe isn't weak by any means.

How can be his opponent much bigger if they have weight divisions?

[Luther]

Originally Posted by FWTG

I find the arm in easier against huge opponents. I remember getting it multiple times on a 230 pure muscle non-noob before and im 170 so it definetly works on larger opponents.

I think the arm in variation is much harder to escape than the standard guilitine.

I agree with the harder escape.

What rank/experience have you? and your 230 opponent?

[J Storm]

Originally Posted by Luther

How can be his opponent much bigger if they have weight divisions?

it's called cutting weight, go look at the fight, Tibau is fucking huge.

[Luther]

Originally Posted by J Storm

it's called cutting weight, go look at the fight, Tibau is fucking huge.

I know, I compete and I cut weight as most athletes (altought not as much as the pros, of course).

My point is that inside the same weight division you can't have the large weight difference I meant in my original post. It seems you are focusing on a small detail, while my question is much more general.

Better standard or arm-in guillotine against larger/stronger opponents? Why?

[FWTG]

Originally Posted by Luther

I agree with the harder escape.

What rank/experience have you? and your 230 opponent?

I just train NoGI recently and have moved around alotso im a no stripe white belt and the Huge guy was a traditional jiujitsu blackbelt who had been rolling NO GI BJJ for a few years.

[spirez]

I pulled this off on a much bigger guy today (around 45-50lb bigger and very athletic), you have to make sure that you're not pulling back on the neck and instead twist your body to the side so that his neck bends into the choke.