Your personal wake up call?

[Too Defensive]

I wanna know of a personal experience of a style you used, then you realized that style wasn't as profecient as you thought.

For example, lets say you lived in a Chinese village, and you were the best tai chi fighter around. Then you met up with a boxer, and you got your ass handed to you. You then realized all of your years in tai chi could have been better used in another art. In other words, by getting your face smashed in, you became enlightened.

Or it could be a certain technique you thought was the shit, then you cross trained with someone, and it turns out that tech. is useless.

[singdawg]

No technique is "useless", no major style wouldn't allow for proficiency if used properly.
It's the fighter that counts.
The boxer beats the tai chi guy cuz he's better.
The tai chi guy might win if he were better.

This seems like you are just looking to justify boxing as superior to TMA's.
It's not.

[Mickey Oneil]

Originally Posted by singdawg

No technique is "useless", no major style wouldn't allow for proficiency if used properly.
It's the fighter that counts.
The boxer beats the tai chi guy cuz he's better.
The tai chi guy might win if he were better.

This seems like you are just looking to justify boxing as superior to TMA's.
It's not.

This is true

[Scareus]

Too Defensive. I think I know what you mean. I had done Kung Fu for 15 years (I started at age 4) and I had competed in many tournaments and done really well for myself, even getting nominated for the hall of fame. A couple of my friends were really good wrestlers. One day, we decided to go to a gym and mess around. All said, despite not knowing a thing about the ground game, I did alright because of naturally good hips. However, that really opened my mind. I was incredibly frustrated with my inability to defend myself on the ground. And thus I started learning Jiu Jitsu.

In addition, I also sparred with some muay thai and boxing practictioners and found some holes in my overall stand-up as well.

Interestingly, I never really attributed it to my style being "weaker" or less-developed or anything like that. Rather, it made me realize that Kung Fu training, even San Shou sparring wasn't totally comprehensive (at least how I was learning it). When sparring with the muay thai guys, their extremely square stance and the way they throw their roundhouse threw me off.. The boxers were a little more conventional, but the rate, speed, and power of their punches was definitely greater than mine and was very difficult to deal with.

After these first experiences, I pretty much immediately dove into MMA.

[chino0503]

Originally Posted by singdawg

No technique is "useless", no major style wouldn't allow for proficiency if used properly.
It's the fighter that counts.
The boxer beats the tai chi guy cuz he's better.
The tai chi guy might win if he were better.

This seems like you are just looking to justify boxing as superior to TMA's.
It's not.

well.... given the fact that boxers actually compete and hit each other.... if i was a gambling man....... i'd put money on the boxer all day... no matter who it is.

ive been into boxing since i was a little kid.... i was never fooled by the foot fist way.

[singdawg]

Originally Posted by chino0503

well.... given the fact that boxers actually compete and hit each other.... if i was a gambling man....... i'd put money on the boxer all day... no matter who it is.

ive been into boxing since i was a little kid.... i was never fooled by the foot fist way.

There are some legit tai chi practicioners, don't fool yourself. Anything can be beaten. Don't forget that. A 12 year old thats never trained could consevably beat a 50 year boxers. Probably unlikely, but don't underestimate your opponent, ever.
"i'd put money on the boxer all day...no matter who it is" is kinda an ignorant statement imo.

[Shark Week]

Originally Posted by singdawg

There are some legit tai chi practicioners, don't fool yourself. Anything can be beaten. Don't forget that. A 12 year old thats never trained could consevably beat a 50 year boxers. Probably unlikely, but don't underestimate your opponent, ever.
"i'd put money on the boxer all day...no matter who it is" is kinda an ignorant statement imo.

you sound like a pretty big idiot.

here, let's just get this over with: do you have any videos of "legit tai chi practitioners" sparring with a "legit boxer or muay thai fighter"?

[kickboxing_fan1]

Originally Posted by singdawg

No technique is "useless", no major style wouldn't allow for proficiency if used properly.
It's the fighter that counts.
The boxer beats the tai chi guy cuz he's better.
The tai chi guy might win if he were better.

This seems like you are just looking to justify boxing as superior to TMA's.
It's not.

Pure comedy gold.

[singdawg]

Originally Posted by Shark Week

you sound like a pretty big idiot.

here, let's just get this over with: do you have any videos of "legit tai chi practitioners" sparring with a "legit boxer or muay thai fighter"?

YouTube - Tai Chi Application for Self-defense Fight in Chen taiji 1
thats how tai chi techniques can be used.

tai chi, aikido and kungfu are all pretty similar. You think they won't work because of all the crappy mcdojo shit out there, but you fail to realize that the techniques, when used properly, do work.

[Soul Rebel 2]

Originally Posted by singdawg

youtube - tai chi application for self-defense fight in chen taiji 1
thats how tai chi techniques can be used.

lol!!