Takanori Gomi @ VTJ

[KenkaBancho]

YouTube - Takanori Gomi vs. Tony Hervey part 1

For those who have yet to see his latest fight, here's part 1. I'd really like to get educated on what makes Gomi's boxing so special besides the obvious power. IMO he seems to be plodding around and really swings with his punches which are big no-nos according to my boxing coach. Please any opinion would be great.

[kickboxing_fan1]

I don't think he's that good technically and would probably get outboxed by a lot of half decent boxers.

What he does have though is he's tough as fuck, and has incredible chin and power. He takes a full on shin kicks to the face in a shooto fight and shrugs it off, he's better in the more brutal enviornment in mma.

If you see his fight with BJ penn he gets ripped with power punches and does get hurt tho.

[DuppyMekka]

Originally Posted by KenkaBancho

YouTube - Takanori Gomi vs. Tony Hervey part 1

For those who have yet to see his latest fight, here's part 1. I'd really like to get educated on what makes Gomi's boxing so special besides the obvious power. IMO he seems to be plodding around and really swings with his punches which are big no-nos according to my boxing coach. Please any opinion would be great.

Apart from hitting like a MW? he backpedals while punching with good precision. he is extremely accurate and goes for openings not just throwing combos. his hands are quick and he shifts stance well. his headmovement and chin is great. Look at Gomi vs Diaz, Bang Ludwig or Jens Pulver and you'll see what happens when he fights a good striker. Diaz got clocked bigtime because Gomi's movements are unorthodox. He is a pressure fighter that hits extremely hard. Who boxes better at LW?

[lukewall]

Originally Posted by DuppyMekka

Apart from hitting like a MW? he backpedals while punching with good precision. he is extremely accurate and goes for openings not just throwing combos. his hands are quick and he shifts stance well. his headmovement and chin is great. Look at Gomi vs Diaz, Bang Ludwig or Jens Pulver and you'll see what happens when he fights a good striker. Diaz got clocked bigtime because Gomi's movements are unorthodox. He is a pressure fighter that hits extremely hard. Who boxes better at LW?

BJ Penn

I like watching Gomi since he fights an exciting style, but he's a bit of a Japanese hype job. Kind of like what Chuck Liddell was a few years ago during his title reign. His boxing is awful, he has good power, and his biggest asset is that he can take a shot. Too many holes in his boxing and he's gotten by on his power/chin and fighting athletes that couldn't take advantage of his fundamental mistakes. Hell, could you see Gomi lace up boxing gloves and box against guys like Kelly Pavlik or Hopkins...or even worse guys like Ray Leonard or Marvin Hagler. His iron chin would be broken quickly.

[HoyBoi]

Great post, thanks!

[baconCrunch]

Originally Posted by lukewall

BJ Penn

I like watching Gomi since he fights an exciting style, but he's a bit of a Japanese hype job. Kind of like what Chuck Liddell was a few years ago during his title reign. His boxing is awful, he has good power, and his biggest asset is that he can take a shot. Too many holes in his boxing and he's gotten by on his power/chin and fighting athletes that couldn't take advantage of his fundamental mistakes. Hell, could you see Gomi lace up boxing gloves and box against guys like Kelly Pavlik or Hopkins...or even worse guys like Ray Leonard or Marvin Hagler. His iron chin would be broken quickly.

some people still referring back to 2003 when penn beat gomi
back then penn was the better at almost everything, and slightly better at boxing
but that was right when gomi lost to hansen
prior to 2003, gomi was never known for his boxing, in fact he was always critisized for being a decision fighter
after the penn fight, gomi started to seriously train at a proboxing gym

believe me, he can hang with proboxers
although his defense is not at that level, his offense certainly is
i almost compare some of his punching technique to prince naseem
he can generate incredible power from all sort of angles, seeming off balance as well..
after that gomi slaughtered everyone from sakurai, kawajiri, pulver, azeredo, the list goes on..

the gomi in his prime was well above penn in boxing
penn has a good jab, but he has no where near the combinations and power of gomi

[Steakeater]

Gomi's striking piqued when he fought Sakurai, Kawajiri, and Pulver. He mixed up hard overhands and used his lead hand to find the range, etc. After that though, he depended too much on the overhands and too much on the knockouts, he gasses himself out now

[DuppyMekka]

Originally Posted by lukewall

BJ Penn

I like watching Gomi since he fights an exciting style, but he's a bit of a Japanese hype job. Kind of like what Chuck Liddell was a few years ago during his title reign. His boxing is awful, he has good power, and his biggest asset is that he can take a shot. Too many holes in his boxing and he's gotten by on his power/chin and fighting athletes that couldn't take advantage of his fundamental mistakes. Hell, could you see Gomi lace up boxing gloves and box against guys like Kelly Pavlik or Hopkins...or even worse guys like Ray Leonard or Marvin Hagler. His iron chin would be broken quickly.

1. BJ Penn is a better fighter than Gomi in every respect except wrestling
2. Gomi is an mma fighter not a boxer, comparing him to Hagler etc is meaningless
3. Gomi has crushed more or less every LW in front of him
4. He outboxed Diaz, Pulver, Sakurai, Pang, Bang Ludwig, Kawajiri and Hervey, to call his boxin awful is ignorant

[lukewall]

Originally Posted by baconCrunch

some people still referring back to 2003 when penn beat gomi
back then penn was the better at almost everything, and slightly better at boxing
but that was right when gomi lost to hansen
prior to 2003, gomi was never known for his boxing, in fact he was always critisized for being a decision fighter
after the penn fight, gomi started to seriously train at a proboxing gym

believe me, he can hang with proboxers
although his defense is not at that level, his offense certainly is
i almost compare some of his punching technique to prince naseem
he can generate incredible power from all sort of angles, seeming off balance as well..
after that gomi slaughtered everyone from sakurai, kawajiri, pulver, azeredo, the list goes on..

the gomi in his prime was well above penn in boxing
penn has a good jab, but he has no where near the combinations and power of gomi

Gomi might be able to hang with some mid-carders/club fighters, but Gomi wouldn't make it the distance with any of the top middleweights right now, much less a great like Hagler. He would be a club fighter at best right now at 160. Hell...he would probably get KO'ed by Shane Mosely, a welterweight. I think people underrate defense when it comes to a boxer. You can't walk through punches all night and expect to win fights against good boxers no matter how strong your chin is or how hard you punch. Just ask Antonio Margarito.

I can see the comparison to Naseem but look what happened to him when he got in the ring with someone he couldn't overpower and could box with him(Barrera).

Gomi in his prime a better boxer than Penn? That's absurd. When they fought, Penn probably came to the fight from a party and proceeded to play punchface with Gomi. Gomi's boxing hasn't improved much since then. Still throwing wild punches and getting off balance and his conditioning has gotten even worse. If they fought now it would be an even bigger ass kicking than the 1st fight.

[DuppyMekka]

Originally Posted by lukewall

Gomi might be able to hang with some mid-carders/club fighters, but Gomi wouldn't make it the distance with any of the top middleweights right now, much less a great like Hagler. He would be a club fighter at best right now at 160. Hell...he would probably get KO'ed by Shane Mosely, a welterweight. I think people underrate defense when it comes to a boxer. You can't walk through punches all night and expect to win fights against good boxers no matter how strong your chin is or how hard you punch. Just ask Antonio Margarito.

I can see the comparison to Naseem but look what happened to him when he got in the ring with someone he couldn't overpower and could box with him(Barrera).

Gomi in his prime a better boxer than Penn? That's absurd. When they fought, Penn probably came to the fight from a party and proceeded to play punchface with Gomi. Gomi's boxing hasn't improved much since then. Still throwing wild punches and getting off balance and his conditioning has gotten even worse. If they fought now it would be an even bigger ass kicking than the 1st fight.

Gomi's boxing hasnt improved since then? You know absolutely nothing of Gomi that is obvious...