Standup in MMA - Page 7

riacef1 · 08-06-2006, 02:27 PM

my point is Tim Sylvia found something that worked for him. I f tim sylvia tried to trade kicks with Andrei the whole night Andrei would have crossed right hands right over the top of Sylvias kicks and knocked him down again. A jab works and Tim is a good example because he plays to hi strenghts and to tell you the gods honest truth TIm Sylvia is 6'5 or 6'6 in person. He is about 2 inches taller than Andrei. Tim sylvia is noit nearly as tall as the UFC claims.

riacef1 · 08-06-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Wanaka

For mma guys to use the jab, they actually have to make their opponent fear it. That means no more pawing your hand out just to gauge distance, you have to try and break the guys nose with it. In MMA most people can't kick worth a damn either, and if they DO kick, it's a low kick to the thigh.

I absolutely agree with this statement, pawing with a jab and leaving it out there like Chris Byrd isnt usually a good choice in MMA but I dont think you have to throw a power jab everytime. It can be a quick distraction that you can use to create angles. You can still use it to find distance by flipping it out with no real intention of landing just to start to gauge the distance. If you can control the fight with jabs than you can follow with combanations and power shots

blanko · 08-07-2006, 12:19 PM

it's the nsac that measures the weight,height, and does the bloodwork for the fighters not the ufc.

Goat Meal · 08-07-2006, 12:37 PM

Yves has some of the best stand-up in MMA, imo. He looks real slick.

mmagoon · 08-07-2006, 04:54 PM

Of course standup is good in mma. WTF? are you a typicall BJJ guy who thinks royce gracie is the champion. A main part of MMA is the standup. Pure BJJ is gonna get tooled.

xinster · 08-07-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mmagoon

Of course standup is good in mma. WTF? are you a typicall BJJ guy who thinks royce gracie is the champion. A main part of MMA is the standup. Pure BJJ is gonna get tooled.

you fucking goon

Strykerx · 08-28-2006, 04:36 PM

I agree the jab, and footwork is neglected in MMA. Maybe there is a good reason for this? I wouldn't know. One must remeber that MMA is constantly evoling and sooner or later working the jab ( a proper jab not chicken wing jab) and good footwork is going to play a major role in a fighters gameplan. From my personal experience if you work the jab, it can angle your opponent for a powerful right, or a good take down. The jab is a tool to distract opponents, measure distance and set up various techniques cross, takedown, knees, etc ( pulling a gun lol)
Thats just my 2 cents.

boboskitchen · 07-18-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by greedysob

You don't even have to go as far as MMA to see the limits of boxing. Imagine how a boxer would do in a kickboxing ring. The whole game changes. Then take a kickboxer and put him in a muay thai ring. All of the sudden he's worred about leg kicks, knees, elbows, clinch, etc.

I agree with you're saying, though. I think MMA is still finding its bases when it comes to standup. You look at a sport like boxing and you see that some of the same advice is being given to everyone: stick and move, work the jab, cirlce away from the power hand... MMA doesn't really have a full set of basic ideas like that. Cro-cop approaches his standup totally different than Wand. Minotauro has another stlye. I think that it all comes down to where the strengths of your base style are. A muay thai kickboxer is going to develop a different approach than a grappler would upon entering MMA. It's all about avoiding your opponents strengths and drawing him into yours.

So when you hear "the jab is underused", you have ask "underused by who"? Is it really to that fighter's benifit to keep his opponent away from him and work from the outside? Or is it better for him to use big wide shots to make his opponent cover up and then close the distance for the clinch?

The jab is also used in boxing to stretch a fight out. They stick and move and dance for 10 rounds to see who has the energy left to win the last 5. MMA sorta stars out in the 10th round. With shorter fights there's more of a push to finish the guy before it goes to a decision, or at least to be aggressive as early as possible to win the judges favor.

ditto