[KEMPO COMMANDER]

in chinese kempo we call what everyone seems to call a spinning back kick a spinning side kick .We also perform back kicks which are done with toes pionting toward the ground and u basically just shoot ur heel out behind u aiming for thigh or knee.it is mostly done as a defense agaist 2 attackers with one coming up from behind u.the spinning back kick would be used agaist the facing opponent delivering kick so u immediatly face man behind u and attack.but what wecall spinning side kick is thrown same as side kick with the spin, foot sideways extending exactly u would crossbehind side or straight side kick.Does anyone else agree?

[King Kabuki]

They're two different kicks. A spinning side-kick would be extended more to the front of the body, from the side of the hip, outwards with the hips basically still up-and-down though slightly turned, and this kick can be fired even if your facing the opponent frontally without turning the body completely.

The spinning back-kick would be where the body is turned completely and so are the hips, meaning the kick is fired more from your back-side or behind you. This kick is mostly thrown blind, targeted before the actual spin, though some people master the movement enough to be able to turn their heads and lock their eyes to their target strike-zone.

People who call these kicks the same thing just don't know kicks very well.

[KEMPO COMMANDER]

So would you call the kick St. Peire did agaist hughes spinning back on side?

[KEMPO COMMANDER]

or side I meant

[Sohei]

Spinning back kick > spinning side kick

[Kyryllo]

I could write a pages long biomechanical and technical thesis about these two kicks (actualy about every kick ), but because of a lag of time I just sum it up and leave the exact explanations aside. A back kick is faster, stronger and more stable but also more "moveable" than the spinning side. The spining side kick is actualy technicaly more dificult but alows higher precision.
Back kick requiers a body turn of 90-160° (depends on the stance)
Spinning side requires a body turn of 160-240° (depends on the stance)
SSK=longer turn=losing time

Before the leg reaches out:
Back kick: knee is directed downwards
SSK: knee is directed sidewards
It gives: the center of gravity is higher and more excentric on the SSK=less stable

Body can be bend down more on the back kick which alows to lower the center of gravity (stability) this also brings the center of gravity closer to the force vector-line (stability power).


etc. etc. etc. I could go on and on, but I think you catch my mind, back kick is better.

[True2KungFu]

most people throw the spinning side kick because they get carreid away with the rotation. Back kick is more solid cuz it utalizes your hams glutes and lower back more in the strike. Its a tough kick to get good with though.

[Michael Wanaka]

Originally Posted by King Kabuki

They're two different kicks. A spinning side-kick would be extended more to the front of the body, from the side of the hip, outwards with the hips basically still up-and-down though slightly turned, and this kick can be fired even if your facing the opponent frontally without turning the body completely.

The spinning back-kick would be where the body is turned completely and so are the hips, meaning the kick is fired more from your back-side or behind you. This kick is mostly thrown blind, targeted before the actual spin, though some people master the movement enough to be able to turn their heads and lock their eyes to their target strike-zone.

People who call these kicks the same thing just don't know kicks very well.

Great post. The descriptions are right on!

[VampireMonk]

yeah 2 different kicks,

spinning side allows you to nail the attacker that is off to the side.

spinning back kick is a powerful kick that nails an attacker straight on.

[RizRan]

Spiining back kicks generates alot more power. Benny the jet used to demolish Muiay Thai fighters with that kick