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Old 04-15-2008, 09:48 PM   #21 (permalink)

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I would not rely much on that numbers, especially since force is not measured in pounds.



On topic: side kicks are simply a difficult technique, there are multiple applications for a side kick that may be useful in mma but it's still a difficult technique to learn.

Should I make a tutorial?
Yes make a tutorial if you could Kyryllo.

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Old 04-15-2008, 10:43 PM   #22 (permalink)

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Also check out his treat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_ekaP_EO1I
That was sweet but the dude practically tried to headbutt the incoming kick. I have seen sidekicks used successfully in point fighting tournaments but not much in full contact, MT, kickboxing or MMA.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:40 PM   #23 (permalink)

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Too slow to land it with any regularity.

And they are deceptively not that powerful. Because you can use all of those big, long, slow twitch muscle fibers in your thigh to do a leg press style push you can really move the heavy bag around or push your pad holder across the gym and think you are kicking powerfully with a side kick. Unfortunately, most guys are getting a lot more push than pow.

The bang for the buck value just isn't there for most guys and they leave you in terrible position to get taken down.

Cung Lee is a possible exception but he still hasn't faced top level MMA talent.
With sidekicks it is all about hitting with the proper weapon. If you hit with the knife edge of the heel it will have lots of penetration and it will drop someone. Look at The Crow's spinning back kick versus GSP hitting Hughes. GSP hit Hughes with the toes and knocked Hughes back. It was like a big push (now the reason that GSP hit Hughes with the toes is because Hughes was already moving out of range. GSP had to reach for him to make contact at all).

When the Crow hit McCarthy it was with the heel and it was beautiful technique. It basically ended the fight.

Like anything it is all about proper technique.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:53 AM   #24 (permalink)

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The biggest reason you dont see it utilized is because its difficult to throw a proper sidekick. Many schools dont teach a proper sidekick, rather they teach a side pushing kick which is basically a variation on the front pushing kick.

A proper sidekick even if it s taught correctly is very difficult to master, and really only works one way. The rear-leg sidekick is worthless, too easy to read. Theres really only 1 or maybe 2 ways to throw it so that its effective, and even then, if your partner can read it, it can be parried easily or grabbed and they will take your back.
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The biggest reason you dont see it utilized is because its difficult to throw a proper sidekick. Many schools dont teach a proper sidekick, rather they teach a side pushing kick which is basically a variation on the front pushing kick.

A proper sidekick even if it s taught correctly is very difficult to master, and really only works one way. The rear-leg sidekick is worthless, too easy to read. Theres really only 1 or maybe 2 ways to throw it so that its effective, and even then, if your partner can read it, it can be parried easily or grabbed and they will take your back.
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The biggest reason you dont see it utilized is because its difficult to throw a proper sidekick. Many schools dont teach a proper sidekick, rather they teach a side pushing kick which is basically a variation on the front pushing kick.

A proper sidekick even if it s taught correctly is very difficult to master, and really only works one way. The rear-leg sidekick is worthless, too easy to read. Theres really only 1 or maybe 2 ways to throw it so that its effective, and even then, if your partner can read it, it can be parried easily or grabbed and they will take your back.
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The biggest reason you dont see it utilized is because its difficult to throw a proper sidekick. Many schools dont teach a proper sidekick, rather they teach a side pushing kick which is basically a variation on the front pushing kick.

A proper sidekick even if it s taught correctly is very difficult to master, and really only works one way. The rear-leg sidekick is worthless, too easy to read. Theres really only 1 or maybe 2 ways to throw it so that its effective, and even then, if your partner can read it, it can be parried easily or grabbed and they will take your back.
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The biggest reason you dont see it utilized is because its difficult to throw a proper sidekick. Many schools dont teach a proper sidekick, rather they teach a side pushing kick which is basically a variation on the front pushing kick.

A proper sidekick even if it s taught correctly is very difficult to master, and really only works one way. The rear-leg sidekick is worthless, too easy to read. Theres really only 1 or maybe 2 ways to throw it so that its effective, and even then, if your partner can read it, it can be parried easily or grabbed and they will take your back.
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The biggest reason you dont see it utilized is because its difficult to throw a proper sidekick. Many schools dont teach a proper sidekick, rather they teach a side pushing kick which is basically a variation on the front pushing kick.

A proper sidekick even if it s taught correctly is very difficult to master, and really only works one way. The rear-leg sidekick is worthless, too easy to read. Theres really only 1 or maybe 2 ways to throw it so that its effective, and even then, if your partner can read it, it can be parried easily or grabbed and they will take your back.
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The biggest reason you dont see it utilized is because its difficult to throw a proper sidekick. Many schools dont teach a proper sidekick, rather they teach a side pushing kick which is basically a variation on the front pushing kick.

A proper sidekick even if it s taught correctly is very difficult to master, and really only works one way. The rear-leg sidekick is worthless, too easy to read. Theres really only 1 or maybe 2 ways to throw it so that its effective, and even then, if your partner can read it, it can be parried easily or grabbed and they will take your back.
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