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Old 01-05-2009, 12:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Over training?

Hey guys was not sure what training forum to put this under but I had a question as to whether or not I should add two days of weight training to my schedule. a bit about me; I used to be heavily into body building style lifting aka 5 days a week of mass generating splits (chest/back etc. etc.) so I like lifting but was not sure how it would work or where I should add it.

Currently my week looks like this
Monday: MMA training 7:00 pm to 10:00 pm
Tuesday: Gi- jiu jitsu 7:45 to 9:45 pm
Wednesday: MMA training 7:00 pm to 10:00 pm
Thursday: No-gi jiu jitsu 7:45 to 9:45 pm
Friday: Off
Saturday: Muay Thai 10:00 am to 11:30 am
Boxing 11:30 am to 1:30 pm

Sunday:off or if I need to lose a little weight (I like to stay 10 pounds off my fighting weight) I will run on a tread mill.

Any thoughts? I have a great kettlebell/powerlifting workout that is two days a week that i cant do as well just didnt know what people thought about that. Maybe road work instead of lifting? I also spar on Fridays every now and again (pure boxing)
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Old 01-05-2009, 12:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You know your body better than we do. I hope you are eating and resting well as that will be the main factor in if you are over/under training.

I would not lift weights in that kind of schedule (especially if you are trying to lose weight). Adding road work and training every day would seem like plenty to me. I don't know what you are doing on those training days but i am assuming you are working your muscles and not just drilling.

Just because you lay off the weights for a while to focus on more specific training doesn't mean you are getting weaker. A stronger punch will more likely come from better technique and hitting the heavybag hard than from increasing your bench press.
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Old 01-05-2009, 02:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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^^Thanks for the advice! I have a pretty healthy lifestyle, I dont drink or stay up late basically work and trianing is all I do so I normally feel ready to go again on Sunday. all of the above classes have large condityioning aspects to them as well so I am confident my muscles are being taxed. I will take your advice and just add some roadwork to it on Fridays and Sundays.

Once again I appreciate the advice!
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If you have the time you could add strength training a couple days a week in the morning. Read the FAQ in the S&P forum and focus on a few heavy compound lifts to get the most bang for your buck without tiring yourself out too much. If it's too much, drop it and focus on your skill work, it's more important.
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You will crash before you start doing any "serious" over-training, atleast I have
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Old 01-05-2009, 03:16 PM   #6 (permalink)

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I'll ask this question since no one else has: How long have you been training?
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'll ask this question since no one else has: How long have you been training?
I have been training for about a year, been keeping the above schedule since october
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are you fighting pro or am, and do you have a base martial art or sport.
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:50 AM   #9 (permalink)

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For any reason... If I push myself too hard on teh weights, i tend to get injuries. not necc serious injuries, but noticable strains or muscle pulls etc. My schedule is not as hectic as yours. Or maybe it's cos my form gets worse when tired.

Anyways, point of post ^ you are your own judge. Respond to how you feel. dont be scared to push it though.
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:22 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Typically there is a burnout phase that happens at about 18 to 24 months. This has a variety of causes, but primarily this is the point where you hit your first plateau. The rate of improvement slows, and this is when really dedicated students try to "redouble their efforts". This invariably leads to them getting tired, frustrated and burned out.

Only you can judge if you are pushing yourself too hard. How old are you? The younger you are the easier it is to heal. Make sure you are getting enough calories and plenty of sleep. You should also be taking supplements.
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