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Old 07-23-2007, 11:40 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Old, old school boxing

Due to the use of comparatively tiny gloves in modern MMA, which render some of the techniques of modern boxing difficult to pull off (reliance upon glove blocking, for instance), it is interesting to look back a century and a half to the art of bareknuckle pugilism. In the hope that someone will find something useful:



Articles

A Plea For Style in Boxing
http://ejmas.com/jmanly/jmanlyframe.htm

A Bout With Gloves
http://ejmas.com/jmanly/jmanlyframe.htm

The Punching Bags of Pugilism
http://ejmas.com/jmanly/articles/200...myers_0801.htm

From Bare Knuckles to Modern Boxing
http://www.savateaustralia.com/Savat...n%20Boxing.htm

The Practical Value of Boxing
http://www.savateaustralia.com/Savat...ays/boxing.htm

A Discussion of Boxing Stances Through History
http://ahfaa.org/boxingstance.htm

When Boxing Was A Martial Art
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/print.php?article=473

Sullivan and Kilrain Fight
http://www.rootsweb.com/~mslamar/WPA/lamar/sullivan.htm





Online Pugilism Manuals & Resources

Captain John Godfrey's Treatise Upon the Useful Science of Defence, 1747
http://www.sirwilliamhope.org/Library/Godfrey/
http://ahfaa.org/1747.htm

Fewtrell's Science of Manual Defence, 1790
http://www.sirwilliamhope.org/Library/Fewtrell/

Extracts From Mendoza's Treatise on Boxing, 1791
http://www.sirwilliamhope.org/Library/Mendoza/

Price's Science of Self Defence, 1867
http://www.geocities.com/cinaet/price.html

Ken Pfrenger's Google Video Lecture on Mendoza
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=search&plinde x=0






Contemporary Wrestling Manuals (takedowns were used in early boxing)


Sir Thomas Parkyns' Close-Hugg Wrestler, 1713
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...tsparkyns.html

Layton's Norfolk Wrestling, 1830's
http://www.the-exiles.org/manual/norfwres/norfwres.htm

Donald Walker's Wrestling, 1840
http://www.geocities.com/cinaet/walker.html



Famous Fighters

IBHOF "Pioneer" Section
http://www.ibhof.com/ibhfrost.htm

Cyber Boxing Zone--Bareknuckle Champions of England
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/barenuk.htm

Cyber Boxing Zone--Bareknuckle Champions of America
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/bare-am.htm









Published Instructional Manuals


English Martial Arts--Terry Brown
http://www.amazon.com/English-Martia...2121576&sr=8-1

The Science of Boxing--Professor Mike Donovan
http://www.amazon.com/Science-Boxing...2121679&sr=1-2

The Classical Pugilism and Bareknuckle Boxing Companion, V.1
http://www.lulu.com/content/101063

The Classical Pugilism and Bareknuckle Boxing Companion, V.2
http://www.lulu.com/content/105201

Self-Defense; Or, The Art of Boxing--Ned Donnelly
http://www.lulu.com/content/70173

Defensive Exercises--George Walker
http://www.lulu.com/content/74232

Art of Wrestling--Dick & Fitzgerald
http://www.lulu.com/content/986654

Boxing--E.B. Mitchell
http://www.lulu.com/content/986912

Manual of Boxing--Benedict
http://www.lulu.com/content/987597

Bartitsu DVD (contains pugilism instruction)
http://www.lulu.com/content/511029

Edwin Shaw's Teacher of Sparring
http://www.lulu.com/content/998265

Art and Practice of English Boxing
http://www.lulu.com/content/1001136

Armstrong's Wrestling
http://www.lulu.com/content/1029751

R.K. Fox's Police Gazette Art of Wrestling
http://www.lulu.com/content/1008995





Forums


Yahoo! Classic Pugilism Group
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/classicpugilism/

Yahoo! Western Martial Arts Group
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/western-arts/

Traditional Boxing Thread @ Martial Arts Planet
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/for...ad.php?t=20504

Critique of "Boxing Stances Through History" @ Bullshido.net
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...p?t=19088&pp=1







Books


Boxiana by Pearce Egan

Bare Fists by Bob Mee

The Manly Art by Elliott J. Gorn

Tom Spring by John Hurley

The Boxing Register by James Roberts and Alexander Scutt

Bareknuckles by Dennis Brailsford

John L. Sullivan and His America by Michael T. Isenberg

The Great Prize Fight by Alan Lloyd

John L. Sullivan by Adam Pollack

Pugilistica by Henry Downes Miles

Pancratia by William Oxberry

The Sundowners by Kevin R. Smith



Footage of Bareknuckle Fights

Real BKB: The Fights of the Irish Travellers (I haven't seen this one)
http://www.scientificwrestling.com/products/item7.cfm






What Pugilism Evolved From

Passchen's Ring-Buch, 1659
http://www.truefork.org/DragonPreser...y/Passchen.php

Nicolaes Petter's Worstel Konst, 1674
http://www.truefork.org/DragonPreser...ety/Petter.php






Sources Online

Henry Downes Miles' Pugilistica
http://www.archive.org/details/pugil...isto01mileuoft
http://www.archive.org/details/pugil...isto02mileuoft

Fred Henning - Fights for the Championship
http://www.archive.org/details/fight...mpio01hennuoft
http://www.archive.org/details/fight...mpio02hennuoft
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Wow thanks for the links. Gonna do some reading now
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Glad to see that it was useful.
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