[StikyIcky]

Originally Posted by indigoluxe

To be honest a lot of people seem to want to find creative ways to avoid the MT clinch. I say, don't try and beat it - join it. The best defence to the MT clinch is your own strong MT clinch. Too many people don't realise the depth of Thai clinch work, watch more Thai fights and note the use of underhooks, overhooks, and various mixed holds etc.

True and it's actually a lot of fun. Even if you're getting you're getting schooled while practicing.

To neutralize the MT clinch you don't have to be an expert. Just have a proper understanding of it and practice. You don't want to stay in it versus a MT master, like Franklin did versus Silva in the first fight. Just neutralize, escape or even reverse into a takedown.

[TangBai]

Originally Posted by StikyIcky

To neutralize the MT clinch you don't have to be an expert.

My MT trainer taught me a simple way to counter a strong clinch, put whatever hand (or both hands) you have free into his face and push his face back, it should open up his body and let you get in a knee or move into a stronger position in the clinch. Don't be gentle with it, shove his face and head back hard.

He's an expert, I'm definitely not, and I can usually get out of his clinch with this. Works best with gloves (10 or 12 ounce) and works ok with no gloves doing drills.

Ive never tried this in an MMA situation so I don't know how well it would work there.

[TangBai]

Originally Posted by Bamaispriceless

but can you actually KO someone with knees to the body, and if so, where do those shots need to go? I completely understand that knees to the head will put even the best fighter on the mat since it's the most powerful blow you could land, but curious about bodyshots.

Yes. You can KO someone with a knee to the body. The ones I've seen lately are more straight knees to the midsection rather than a side knee to the outside (where a body hook/rip would normally go). Tonight I seen a tall fighter land a nice step-up knee to the midsection, goodnight, thanks for coming.

Look at your knee cap, flex your foot back upto your hamstring, hit it with your hand, its very hard and has a very large surface area. Compare it to your fist, you know that knee was made for hurting people. Now imagine someone winding up and with all their effort jamming that big hard err... knee straight into your stomache. It going to hurt, alot.

[dvermillion15]

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