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08-12-2005, 12:38 PM
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Alot of the clinching in thailand is changing from the traditional plam technique. Some sweet stuff going on though. Another way to block it or escape it I learned from Bas. If you get locked up, put one of your arms across both of theirs, then rest your forehead on it. This way, they can't pull your head down. Use your other arm to intercept the knees. In between knees, throw a nasty liver shot or two. They'll be letting go soon enough...
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08-12-2005, 12:46 PM
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any othe tips for entering the clinch, combos, i see a lot of people use a left hook to grasp the neck and start a clinch,are their any other strikes to come in behind,also any tips to make the lead leg knee more powerful, an example you clinch throw the right knee A) do you try to push him back and plant the right more forward to give the left (now back) more power, B) just fire the left from the lead position C) land the right come down and step back with the left. all of my discriptions were in the orthadox stance.THANKS
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08-12-2005, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sickness
Alot of the clinching in thailand is changing from the traditional plam technique. Some sweet stuff going on though. Another way to block it or escape it I learned from Bas. If you get locked up, put one of your arms across both of theirs, then rest your forehead on it. This way, they can't pull your head down. Use your other arm to intercept the knees. In between knees, throw a nasty liver shot or two. They'll be letting go soon enough...
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this is interesting....when you say put one of your arms across both of thiers, do you mean like, hang it over thier biceps?...like youre gonna cross face them or something? Or do you mean keeping it on the inside, under thier triceps?...Im a little confused by this.
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08-12-2005, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TwIsTeD&BrOkEn
this is interesting....when you say put one of your arms across both of thiers, do you mean like, hang it over thier biceps?...like youre gonna cross face them or something? Or do you mean keeping it on the inside, under thier triceps?...Im a little confused by this.
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I posted this if you look. You rest your arm across his forearms.
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08-12-2005, 03:35 PM
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Yes it is over the arms. Sorry to duplicate your post Iceman, I didn't read them all...
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08-12-2005, 06:16 PM
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good post for mma high tie up.... but a muay thai clinch should be modified slightly from this. all the pure thai stuff is done close and stait up and down..... but what was posted is perfect for mma.
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I think that depends on who the instructor is. I'm beginning to think mine was too traditional for his own good to be compared with the more sport Muay Thai circulating today, because he taught more of the non-ring aspects of the Art and encouraged using them in-ring once your athleticism reaches a certain level. Standing straight-up was always discouraged, he would always shout "YOU WANT DEY TROW YOU DOWN!!?!? HIP BACK, MOA BALANCHE!!!"
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08-12-2005, 06:24 PM
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What I meant to ask is what should I do when I end up in this clinch? The mma school I train at teachs a lot of bjj and wrestling, so I end up in a clinch like this. It's a lot harder to throw knees from this clinch then it is from a mt clinch.
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To answer your question, if you have an overhook and an underhook, I personally am a fan of stepping in deep, twisting my hip (driving it into their gut) and pulling with all my power for a throw. Slams are very under-estimated, thus, I go for them whenever I can if competing in MMA-oriented scenarios.
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08-13-2005, 02:25 PM
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ok so youre basically just hooking your arm around the outside of thiers, over the top?...that may be tough to do with boxing gloves on....you think you could get to that point by trying an elbow, and maybe trying to shove your forearm in his face...you could combine that with an uppercut or hook to the body with the defending arm, and shove him off? it sounds a bit better to me than just defending in that position and hoping he lets ya go....I might try somethin like that on monday.
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08-13-2005, 09:11 PM
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Your approach sounds good too Twisted, let us know how it works out.
There's a lot of shit I've learned to do with Boxing gloves on over-the-years. lol Greco-Roman type maneuvers are just one bit. Especially because maneuvering your arms against an opponent's with the gloves on is something not many guys expect you to do. It catches them by surprise A LOT.
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08-15-2005, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DaGREATkabookie
any othe tips for entering the clinch, combos, i see a lot of people use a left hook to grasp the neck and start a clinch,are their any other strikes to come in behind,also any tips to make the lead leg knee more powerful, an example you clinch throw the right knee A) do you try to push him back and plant the right more forward to give the left (now back) more power, B) just fire the left from the lead position C) land the right come down and step back with the left. all of my discriptions were in the orthadox stance.THANKS
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is this A)just too stupid to answer
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B) just overlooked
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