[Rinksterk]

Originally Posted by villasenor

damn, these kids want everything fast these days!

better to take your time and be a good "intermediate" than a crappy pro with virtually no technique

You got that right. This reminds me of the beginning BJJers who always ask about when they'll get their blue belt. Quit worrying about that shit and just train.

[ssullivan80]

Originally Posted by Rinksterk

You got that right. This reminds me of the beginning BJJers who always ask about when they'll get their blue belt. Quit worrying about that shit and just train.

Amen!

[vince89]

Easy to learn, hard to master.

[GrazZ]

just to let you know, the odds of you even being able to train 3 times a week are like 0% i *guarantee* you will be SO SORE after your first class you wont be able to go more than once a week to start and if you arent, you arent working hard enough

[No Quarter]

I have been training MT for almost 2 years now, and I am still learning, especially the clinch work.

[vangor]

I hate how Muy Thai has become so popular because of the UFC. Boxing is a much better skill to learn for the simple fact that a good boxer will almost always beat a good muy thai or kickboxer. Punches are much more effective and more versatile in a fight than kicks, and since Muy Thai fighters aren't nearly as good with their hands they're sitting ducks for any good boxer who comes in on them.

[RJ Powell]

Originally Posted by villasenor

better to take your time and be a good "intermediate" than a crappy pro with virtually no technique

Reminds me of 70% of MMA fighters!


OH! ZING!

but seriously, alot of up and comers in MMA should really focus on striking technique and basic ring strategy instead of just throwing themselves into competition.

Some fighters look like they are having seizures at each other in the standup.

[vangor]

Don't believe the hype on Muy Thai or kickboxing though. Boxing is the best and most effective stricking sport out there.

[RJ Powell]

Vangor, i think you are being a little biased and bitter here.

I do agree that boxing is an excellent base striking art for MMA, but somewhere down the line you will have to branch out, just like Marcus davis did as an example.

One isn't better than the other. I know you are probably just annoyed that muay thai gets more attention than boxing.

But for the record, even top kickboxers hire boxing trainers to help them sharpen up their hands. Shows how indespensable good hands are.

[RJ Powell]

Originally Posted by vangor

Punches are much more effective and more versatile in a fight than kicks, and since Muy Thai fighters aren't nearly as good with their hands they're sitting ducks for any good boxer who comes in on them.

Punches definitely have more use than kicks in MMA, most of the time. Lets just say that you would have to be a kicking expert to do well with them in MMA compared to if you just learn a little boxing. But in kickboxing i am afraid kicks are just as potent as punches.

and "Muay Thai" fighters are FAR from sitting ducks against good boxers, we aren't talking K-1 here, a vicious thai clinch can overwhelm and completely dismantle the best inside boxer.

Actually, that is what thais look for when they fight foreigners, they are waiting for them to come into clinching range to box. They usually neutralize the punching with the stophands technique and slip they're hands around to the back of the neck, then proceed to deliver knees.

reminds me of an old muay thai saying.

Punch beats kick > kick beats elbow > elbow beats knee > knee beats punch.