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06-15-2008, 01:03 AM
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KJ Noons boxing
You know someone was going to start a thread about this.
But I think his boxing is fantastic for MMA. Probably one of the best boxers in the sport of MMA.
Its amazing how some people still claim traditional boxing techniques such as bobbing and weaving are ineffective in MMA when numerous fighters have done these techniques effectively.
Considering how long the fight lasted I thought Noons was impressive. I thought his head movement was great in this fight.
What are your thoughts?
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06-15-2008, 01:06 AM
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KJ was a decent Boxer, and seems to understand that you don't really have to adjust that much if you're also strong in other areas.
I recently got a chance to share a Gym with Damacio Page, and he was showing me how he uses head-movement different when he spars Boxers, and then showed tighter more concise head-movement for MMA. Had I not been at the very end of my workout and a little mentally slow, I'd have let him know I think the smaller more concise movements would work better in Boxing, too. There doesn't need to be a difference really. Especially with his Wrestling background.
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06-15-2008, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by King Kabuki
KJ was a decent Boxer, and seems to understand that you don't really have to adjust that much if you're also strong in other areas.
I recently got a chance to share a Gym with Damacio Page, and he was showing me how he uses head-movement different when he spars Boxers, and then showed tighter more concise head-movement for MMA. Had I not been at the very end of my workout and a little mentally slow, I'd have let him know I think the smaller more concise movements would work better in Boxing, too. There doesn't need to be a difference really. Especially with his Wrestling background.
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Good point,
I thought his upper body movement was good as well. And another thing I noticed was he looked relaxed. He looked like a seasoned veteran in there.
Did you end up catching the Noons fight? Do you like him?
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06-15-2008, 01:37 AM
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Keeping loose is a key of Boxing well, and IMO it was one of the differences that was telling between Penn and Sherk. When you're loose like BJ was, reaction time is better because you don't have to relax your muscles to move. Sherk always looked tense and tight, so to punch he'd have to relax, punch, and tighten back up.
I've seen KJ fight, he's the goods.
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06-15-2008, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by King Kabuki
Keeping loose is a key of Boxing well, and IMO it was one of the differences that was telling between Penn and Sherk. When you're loose like BJ was, reaction time is better because you don't have to relax your muscles to move. Sherk always looked tense and tight, so to punch he'd have to relax, punch, and tighten back up.
I've seen KJ fight, he's the goods.
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Definitely,
I thought Penn was so much more fluid than Sherk. Penn was so smooth in all aspects, his head & body movement, his combinations etc. It almost looked easy for Penn.
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06-15-2008, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by uppercuts21
You know someone was going to start a thread about this.
But I think his boxing is fantastic for MMA. Probably one of the best boxers in the sport of MMA.
Its amazing how some people still claim traditional boxing techniques such as bobbing and weaving are ineffective in MMA when numerous fighters have done these techniques effectively.
Considering how long the fight lasted I thought Noons was impressive. I thought his head movement was great in this fight.
What are your thoughts?
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the guy who fought diaz used his head/upperbody movement very well in evading diaz jab and right hand, not to mention some pretty nifty footwork to avoid takedowns and maintain range to catch nick coming in
as far as noons, he seems to be for real; as far as phys ability goes he is definitely legit, he has shown very fast hands, alot of footspeed and REAL punching/striking power stopping. As good as eves is standing, i had alot of concerns that he could or would be caught in exchanges w/noons, which is exactly what happened; at this moment i don't see tooo many people being able to hang w/kj on the feet and unless their wrestling game is VERY sharp, they won't be able to even attempt to grapple him.
i gave him credit for beating diaz unlike alot of the forum; people are gonna have to give him his respect, beating diaz/edwards back to back is saying something, esp when he did it in such a dominant fashion.
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06-15-2008, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by King Kabuki
Keeping loose is a key of Boxing well, and IMO it was one of the differences that was telling between Penn and Sherk. When you're loose like BJ was, reaction time is better because you don't have to relax your muscles to move. Sherk always looked tense and tight, so to punch he'd have to relax, punch, and tighten back up.
I've seen KJ fight, he's the goods.
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can the tenseness come from being in w/ someone who u KNOW is bascally superior to u in every possible area of fighting; an the one area u are superior in, there is no guarantee u can assert urself using those tech. Not to mention that aspect of your game walks u into that person ultimate strength.
also kabuki-is kj more or less the best striker in mma at the 155/160 range, i haven't seen alot of him; but i can't think of anyone right now who i feel confident standing w/ noones. I guess maybe spencer fisher, sam stout or chris horodecki; that performance against edwards was VERY impressive, as yves is still considered one of the better athletic and tech strikers in mma, much less the div.
Last edited by King Kabuki : 06-15-2008 at 08:38 AM.
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06-15-2008, 08:43 AM
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Which guy are you talking about?
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