i need tips in training MMA with my friends

[supmaynnn]

i want to start a "fight club" kind of thing with my friends (with no intent to hurt each other) but solely for the purpose of learning and training

i want it to be striking AND grappling, similar to MMA but of course i dont want anyone to get hurt, and with just enough rules so that nobody gets seriously hurt. i want it to be close to MMA and with as few rules as possible, but i have safety as my first priority

i am going to list a few things and i would like for u guys to give me feedback on them and add along anything else u can think of that would help


we would be doing it on a matted floor so that there would be takedowns. is it safe to be taking each other down on a matted floor? im worried about people landing wrong and things such as arms breaking (shogun/coleman style) and peoples heads hitting the floor. how much should i worry.

i want it so that punches to the head are allowed. is there any circumstance where MMA gloves (the small ass gloves) would work with sparring when head shots are allowed? since i want grapping involved in this too i am confused as to which gloves would be better since i would think it is hard to grapple with 16 ounce gloves. i have honestly never sparred anyone with MMA gloves so i would like your guy's opinion on this. do they cause that much more damage than 16 ounce gloves when someone takes a hit to the head or jaw?


how about 16 oz gloves for striking? ive been hit with them pretty hard and have seen stars and been dizzy from them. is it unsafe for us to be hitting each other in the head and knocking each other dizzy? ive seen chuteboxe training videos where they just spar with those and no head gear.



what is the minimum that we should use in terms of equipment. i can think of gloves and a mouth guard. but do we need head gear? safety is my first goal and i dont want anyone to be hurt and given a concussion or whatever from this. would head gear help if we were to use 16 oz gloves? how about MMA gloves? would we be able to use those MMA gloves (so that grappling would be more possible) if we were to spar with head gear? or is the whole idea of MMA gloves just stupid even with head gear?

i know it may be hard to grapple with 16 oz gloves, is that just stupid and pointless to be grappling with those?

how about leg kicks, would we need any equipment to protect against leg kicks? do i not need to worry about those as much. i dont want head kicks and things other than the hands to touch the head, so no elbows no knees to the head. would head gear be that necessary if its just the head taking hits from the gloves (mma gloves or 16 oz)

if i were to allow clinching+knees (as long as its not to the head), would that increase chances of injury? how much punishment can someone take from knees before a rib breaks or something.

would allowing striking while grappling be stupid? such as hits done while being guard or having the other person in your guard and such.



there is more i cant think of right now...

this may seem dumb to some of u but i want some feed back : ) again my goal is training but only if everyone is safe and not at risk of being injured...



any advice is welcomed

[krellik]

What is both your previous martial arts experience? (none?)

First of all you dont start of by "fighting" eachother in full mma. You pick one or 2 things that you make certain how to do properly and then you drill the shit out of that for a few weeks and then you start to build from that.

And it is of course better to go to a real club to train since you will pick up bad habits in this way.

[supmaynnn]

we have a group of people and theres a couple that have done bjj and like two that have done boxing before but thats about it. there are also people who were wrestlers in high school

its kinda like a "fun" kind of training im trying to do even tho that might sound dumb but i cant seem to get as much people if its drills only

[J0NNY BOY]

get the practice mma gloves (7 or 8 oz) from Combat Sports international. but yeah... you're gonna pick up bad habits unless properly instructed, then eventually probaly get your ass whooped. go to a school mang

[adamantium]

Go to a school, or if that isa complete impossibility then get some training videos and watch it so you can atleast attempt to correct your habits, have your friends critique you and everyone else and just go for it. You can get practice MMA/shooto gloves as stated above and i read somewhere on here that they go up to 12oz so id advise those.

Get some experience in stand up and ground game, and meet once-twice a week as a group to do some extra grappling/sparring/MMA.

[krellik]

Still no matter how you want to flip it, if you throw people without training into full mma sparring they will get basicly nothing out of it.

First drill: Straight punches

-1 takedown

-1 sweep from guard

-1 escape from the major negative positions

-1 sub from every agresive position

-1 good guard pass

-etc etc etc

Basicly you need to have one tool of everything that you drill extensively with everybody first so they have some clue about what they are doing. And no doing it a few times one or 2 sessions is -not- enough.

Then when you got something to play with you start testing it realisticly, in other words "sparing". But you dont just throw people into full mma sparing. You break it down in smaller parts.

1. Start with "moment" sparring. Etc sparr with one person who has guard on the other, from here the person on the bottom trys to regain guard/sweep/sub the person in the guard, and the other person only tries to pass.
Another example is sparring standing up where they only are allowed to use their jab, and another is that you only work double legs or whatever on eachother. In this way you can agresively "spar" every single aspect of the game without confusing things. This is -always- a good way of training and it quicly gives repetition in a slightly more "interesting" way than straight drilling.

2. When you have some training under your belt you go to the next level and do: Standing sparring (with 12-14-16 ounce gloves and shinguards, etc) with or without takedowns. (and no usual floormats is not enough pading for agresive takedowns) You can sparr only takedowns (with or without seting it up with punches) And last groundsparing (with or without punches with valetudo gloves) This type of broken down sparring is the most usual form you should do, it is also the training you get most out of.

3. When you have -substansial- training under your belt you can do full mma sparring with the more paded variations of mma gloves (go easy with the punching to the head). This is good to do ocasionally but is whery unpractical (you cant really have many people going at the same time for instance). In the bigger picture it is more of a novelty than anything else for you guys -right now-.

There you got my take on it. If you are not prepared to break it down in this way and provide real training, but instead only want to throw people in "swingin" fightclub style I dont think you are fit enough to organise any type of training. With some inteligense (and agresive ehrm downloading of instructionals (-disclaimer naturaly im talking legal sources- ...;) you can get really good "garage type" training going.

If you choose to be inteligent and puting down some effort in it I say good luck to you, if you only want to throw people in fighting with eachother without training them first I hope it fails.

[canucknoob]

I know it's been said, but if you don't have someone there who is actually able to teach you, all you'll be is a bunch of kids trying to imitate moves you've seen on UFC shows... which means you'll never get better and you'll never be doing it correctly. Before doing anything go and take at least 6 months each of Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu - then you'll at least have the fundamentals.

[BritishMMAchamp]

stick to backyard wrestling

[Tone C]

If there is no-one local to train you(have you stuck up a thread,I live in x xxxxx and want to train or searched locally properly?)Do as has been suggested,pick up some instructionals and work the basics slowly and safely and drill them over and over,until you have them down pat....its supposed to take between 500-1000 repetiions(sp.i know) until something can start to be considered in your muscle memory

When you have this down you can speed things up and put in resistance etc.allow for takedowns vs. boxing etc...

As posted earlier,CSI Do some well padded MMA gloves as do some other people on here...I think Ron at SSF(SEE GEAR AND EQUIPMENT) can probably help with most of the stuff or Neil at KO fight gear (google) is very good too.

You sure theres no MT/Boxing etc locally though?

[Tone C]

Oh and make sure your medical insurance is up to date.......