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Fytjunkee81 · 11-02-2009, 01:00 PM

I have been training at 2 exclusive MMA training facilities in San Diego about 3 years between the 2 facilities and, I have been very consistent. I have a pretty solid background regarding my stand up and have a purple belt in jits. I came out here from the Ghetto in Pittsburgh and have been used to training at the hole in the wall gyms. I started training at these "Elite" facilities because I figured with such a "Hardcore" reputation that there would be no doubt regarding the quality of the training. I mean if you have that word plastered on the side of your building you better make damn sure you can deliver right? Prior to training at these gyms I went to more than a few smaller gyms, dojos, call them what you will and ended up with the Elite... It has been such a disappointment training at these facilities! The first 2 weeks (and I have noticed with other practitioners as well) you adapt to the cardio and then what? No technique or correction at all! The coaches crank up the music and, everyone starts cardio kickboxing WTF! I can't emphasize enough that this facility owns San Diego. They don't get you fights, no promotion and no management so how can you advance? The place is all inclusive with the jiu jitsu, Muay Thai, boxing,crossfit and, it's cheap. I guess the saying "You get what you pay for" is a 2 way street! So what I am getting at is buyer beware! Here's to all the hard knocks gyms, blackeyes and fat lips! Be careful before commiting to all the hype. Where you train is not as important as how you train.

PalatialGabe · 11-02-2009, 02:08 PM

That's how I feel about Jackson's here. Everyone goes there because it's so renowned for it's fighters, but I don't think people get to train with Greg Jackson, they pay a lot of money to sit in overcrowded classes, and they don't really care if your name isn't Rashad Evans or GSP.

I go to a gym that isn't as well known as Jackson's in New Mexico, but well known enough that fighters like Demacio Page and Cowboy Cerrone come here for Muay Thai. Go for that in between gym, not the Globogym that whoever-the-fuck goes to. Most likely gyms like that won't give you the personal attention you need when starting a martial art or as much of an opportunity to prove yourself.

I had friends at my gym now who went to Jackson's for a year, would participate in grappling tournaments and lose, but now go to smaller gyms and place in tourneys. That's why I support smaller gyms more, I'd rather have personal attention than a big gym name to say I go to.

PalatialGabe · 11-02-2009, 02:14 PM

I just got my blue belt. I'm way more knowledgeable now too.

Just kidding.

CFMC04 · 11-02-2009, 03:37 PM

Makes good sense. I'd say the bigger gyms are better for established fighters. Most of the stories I've heard lead me to believe that it's harder to get what you may need at the bigger places. The only caviate with smaller gyms would be if you happen to be the best guy in the place, it could stiffle your progress. Smaller gyms are trying to make a name for themselves so they may be more willing to work harder to train you for advancement.

PalatialGabe · 11-02-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CFMC04

Makes good sense. I'd say the bigger gyms are better for established fighters. Most of the stories I've heard lead me to believe that it's harder to get what you may need at the bigger places. The only caviate with smaller gyms would be if you happen to be the best guy in the place, it could stiffle your progress. Smaller gyms are trying to make a name for themselves so they may be more willing to work harder to train you for advancement.

Co-sign.

Peekay1982 · 11-02-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fytjunkee81

I have been training at 2 exclusive MMA training facilities in San Diego about 3 years between the 2 facilities and, I have been very consistent. I have a pretty solid background regarding my stand up and have a purple belt in jits. I came out here from the Ghetto in Pittsburgh and have been used to training at the hole in the wall gyms. I started training at these "Elite" facilities because I figured with such a "Hardcore" reputation that there would be no doubt regarding the quality of the training. I mean if you have that word plastered on the side of your building you better make damn sure you can deliver right? Prior to training at these gyms I went to more than a few smaller gyms, dojos, call them what you will and ended up with the Elite... It has been such a disappointment training at these facilities! The first 2 weeks (and I have noticed with other practitioners as well) you adapt to the cardio and then what? No technique or correction at all! The coaches crank up the music and, everyone starts cardio kickboxing WTF! I can't emphasize enough that this facility owns San Diego. They don't get you fights, no promotion and no management so how can you advance? The place is all inclusive with the jiu jitsu, Muay Thai, boxing,crossfit and, it's cheap. I guess the saying "You get what you pay for" is a 2 way street! So what I am getting at is buyer beware! Here's to all the hard knocks gyms, blackeyes and fat lips! Be careful before commiting to all the hype. Where you train is not as important as how you train.

Sorry chum, I'm confused - you've been training at the elite/big-name place for three years? Why have you stayed there so long if the training's not up to scratch?

Fytjunkee81 · 11-03-2009, 11:44 AM

I should have been a little more clear in my statement regarding the more than few experiences at other gyms. I have experienced training at money grubbing studios with flakey instructors all around San Diego. There are some more respectable gyms around but, a 3 hour drive everyday is a tough commitment in a town where gas is 3-4 bucks a gallon and rent is 1500 bucks a month. you see then why you have to pick the better of the evils. I train there because after giving your money aimlessly other gyms you have to train at a self image facility to practice shotty Muay Thai because you have exhausted your options else where and, there isn't any really solid gyms here. It's only Elite because the sign says so.

DropBows · 11-03-2009, 07:10 PM

San Diego is known for it's standup schools. Not grappling so much (yes i know frank is there). You should be going to a school that exclusively does Muay Thai, or San Shou, or whatever. But it has to be specific. Not this hybrid shit.

There's another thing we should clear up as well. You shouldn't go to a specific city for training. You should go to a specific gym that you know fits your needs. As in your situation, logistics is a problem because you dont live near a good gym.

stu3ufc · 11-03-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DropBows

San Diego is known for it's standup schools. Not grappling so much (yes i know frank is there). You should be going to a school that exclusively does Muay Thai, or San Shou, or whatever. But it has to be specific. Not this hybrid shit.

There's another thing we should clear up as well. You shouldn't go to a specific city for training. You should go to a specific gym that you know fits your needs. As in your situation, logistics is a problem because you dont live near a good gym.

how's your TKD training going bro?