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Old 04-20-2008, 08:27 PM   #61 (permalink)

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I am primarily a grappler, how do I work against Muay Thai fighter? Without getting kneed in the face?
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:55 PM   #62 (permalink)

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i like that dragon cross workout .. deff gonna try it tonight
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:32 PM   #63 (permalink)

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Bas is a great fighter. But he has argueably some of the worst hands in MMA.

Anyhoo...great stuff Kabuki!
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:24 PM   #64 (permalink)

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hey i just joined the forum and am also a begginning fighter trying to learn proper technique, what i sometimes have trouble with is my reach advantage when i practice stand up just boxing, it seems even if i commit to a combination im always getting countered and not seeing the counter, is there anything i could do or work on to learn how to see the counter coming and make a counter of my own ?
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:29 AM   #65 (permalink)

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I am primarily a grappler, how do I work against Muay Thai fighter? Without getting kneed in the face?
I think you need to read all of this thread again bro...

a good MT fighter is very good at keeping you at range, so you need to step in and go in behind strikes, get in close, and drop him before you get clinched and as you say, kneed in the face.

You could also try using his kicks against him - If he teeps to keep you at range (front kicks you) then you can use your hand to push /divert his leg to whichever side he is facing, (umm probly not explainin this v well...) for example if you're both in orthodox stance, and he teeps with his left foot (front foot), you divert the kick to ur left, which turns him away from you, and you can then follow up with a low kick, right cross, or an an easy takedown in your case. Sure the better members here can clarify /correct me if needed.

If you can catch a low kick youll hav no problem putting him on his back, I'd say right cross or leg kick, i'm not what a grappler would do, i assume just shoot forward, collect the standing leg as well and you're away..
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:42 AM   #66 (permalink)

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"I think I misunderstood one of the points in this thread, so please forgive me if I missed something. How are fighters closing while taking a step with the rear leg first? It can be done (it happens to me) if the attacker sets up an angled move (or sidestep, but that would be orthodox if moving right) after a strong combination (standard). But if I see an opponent's rear foot move forward I usually jab or (if I'm not totally gassed) pivot around the advance. Sometimes I teep. But it's very easy to see and react to because the rear foot moving first leaves the opponent off-balance - usually. Also it telegraphs a bit. Did I misunderstand the previous statements?
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Yeah, me too. I'm not sure what Twisted meant and he hasn't posted in a while.

I think he (twisted) is reffering to being in a more traditional boxing stance, feet set wider apart then he says "step in deep with rear leg first". In other words, when closing the gap with the jab in a wider stance, step your rear leg in closer to your lead.....narrowing the stance and fire of the rear leg forward with a jab. Covers more distance (closing gap) than a more traditional shuffle type movement. I dont think he is implying step forward (rear leg ahead of lead leg) or cross over with the rear leg........ This may not be right, just how I would interpret it....? Who knows?
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:51 AM   #67 (permalink)

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sorry double post see below

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Old 05-22-2008, 10:37 AM   #68 (permalink)

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I think he (twisted) is reffering to being in a more traditional boxing stance, feet set wider apart then he says "step in deep with rear leg first". In other words, when closing the gap with the jab in a wider stance, step your rear leg in closer to your lead.....narrowing the stance and fire of the rear leg forward with a jab. Covers more distance (closing gap) than a more traditional shuffle type movement. I dont think he is implying step forward (rear leg ahead of lead leg) or cross over with the rear leg........ This may not be right, just how I would interpret it....? Who knows?

I didn't really understand the first time so hmmm - but jus to agree. I'm pretty sure there is no implication that you should ever cross your rear leg in front of your lead leg unless maybe you're stance switching lol?
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