[LiT_WiCK]

Originally Posted by svoss03

Since I don’t think any one I know would even begin to understand where I am coming from I thought I was on my own... Until I realized this forum would be a good place to ask. Awesome epiphany.

My fight game is aggressive. I was at a time, well accustomed to fighting in the street, a few times in what I thought was life or death. I am older and wiser now but this instinct is still alive in me and I am trying to control/harness my inner aggression. Some of you may understand what I am saying others will have no idea, hell maybe I really am alone on this? Those who do know what I am talking about might recall a time or two where it did not matter if you lived or died, what injuries you may sustain or what condition you were in after the fact. What mattered was taking out the enemy because they were your enemy.

I feel like there is a point of no turning back, a switch that gets turned on that I do not have any control over. Not that my skills go out the window, but I almost feel like I loose my mind. It is a great feeling. No fear, no pain, no thoughts, just action. It is when I am at my best, doing what I was born to do. Zen.

The problem for me is bringing this into sparring. I honestly don’t want to admit it because to some it would seem conceited, but I am afraid to let go for fear of what I would do. I’ve seen the consequences of my thoughtless actions and have hurt people in ways much worse than physical pain. On the other side of the coin, there are times when I need to be able to respond, counter and strike like I would if I were in a street fight or cage match. I need to be able to be more aggressive with some of my training partners but I don’t do it because I think they will push back and push me to the point where I snap.

I don’t know, it’s like a love hate thing. If I like you I don’t want to hurt you, so I don’t want to go there. If I don’t like you, then fine, lets get it on and FUCK YOU if you die.

Should I go see a shrink, let loose on my training partners and let them be the ones to decide if they should push any further or is there an answer.

Is there a way to harness uninhibitedly that inner demon and then learn to control it effectively or should I just let it out? I really feel like just saying fuck you if you cant hang but I have learned a thing or 2 over the years.

The reason this comes up is because one of my training partners has a hard time controlling his anger and power. He has recently pissed me off by taking it too hard to a few new guys and almost pushed me to that “snapping point” last time we sparred. I am glad though, because without these recent events I would not be asking for advice right now.

Any body else as fucked up in the head?

dude.... If you kill someone that is bad enough, you don't need to then have sex with their body...

I don't believe anything you said...

but to answer your question, yes, it is possible

[T.J.T]

We always agree on the terms before hand and don’t loose my cool. Like I said, recently I was pushed to the point where I felt like letting go cuz the mother fucker was taking it too hard to a few new guys as well as going much harder than we agreed. He was out of line but I kept my composure.

I don’t have any issue with suppressing my anger and don’t retaliate out of anger.

Arent you kinda going agsint what you just said with those 2 statments.

If someone else is going harder tell him or i usualy throw something that doesnt hurt the person but gets there attention, like a solid body shot or jab just to stright them up. If your getting to the breaking point you need to control your emotions better or stop sparing, the last thing you want to do is raging in class. But i still dont understand if your getting mad becuase your frustrated or the people your sparing are going to hard because they are mad.

I honestly dont quite understand what your saying though :s

[LiT_WiCK]

Originally Posted by svoss03

LOL.

I guess I didn't explain it right. I am a very good sparring partner be it against people that could wipe the mat with my face or a brand new student. We always agree on the terms before hand and don’t loose my cool. Like I said, recently I was pushed to the point where I felt like letting go cuz the mother fucker was taking it too hard to a few new guys as well as going much harder than we agreed. He was out of line but I kept my composure.

I don’t have any issue with suppressing my anger and don’t retaliate out of anger.

Some may understand some may not. IMO there is another level of aggression well above what I am able to control at this point so I don’t let it out and that is what I want to learn to use appropriately.

everyone understands, dont you understand that?

what *I* dont understand is, what is the point of this thread? to get answers and feedback? which you have gotten and ignored... or to just put your thoughts on paper which would better be suited for a diary or a blog

[xbourquex]

Originally Posted by svoss03

LOL.

I guess I didn't explain it right. I am a very good sparring partner be it against people that could wipe the mat with my face or a brand new student. We always agree on the terms before hand and don’t loose my cool. Like I said, recently I was pushed to the point where I felt like letting go cuz the mother fucker was taking it too hard to a few new guys as well as going much harder than we agreed. He was out of line but I kept my composure.

I don’t have any issue with suppressing my anger and don’t retaliate out of anger.

Some may understand some may not. IMO there is another level of aggression well above what I am able to control at this point so I don’t let it out and that is what I want to learn to use appropriately.

Where's your coach? I mean, you should be trying to be learning stuff trying things out, gaining experience. You shouldn't be thinking about all this crap, relax or something You do know if you're not used to getting hit you generally think you are getting hit harder than they are hitting you? we all see this happening all the time, once someone gets hit alittle they start going all out on the other guy for no reason?

[svoss03]

Originally Posted by LiT_WiCK

dude.... If you kill someone that is bad enough, you don't need to then have sex with their body...

I don't believe anything you said...

but to answer your question, yes, it is possible

Thanks for the help!

[svoss03]

Originally Posted by T.J.T

Arent you kinda going agsint what you just said with those 2 statments.

If someone else is going harder tell him or i usualy throw something that doesnt hurt the person but gets there attention, like a solid body shot or jab just to stright them up. If your getting to the breaking point you need to control your emotions better or stop sparing, the last thing you want to do is raging in class. But i still dont understand if your getting mad becuase your frustrated or the people your sparing are going to hard because they are mad.

I honestly dont quite understand what your saying though :s

Rather than allowing myself to get to the breaking point, I back off. Thats what I did the other day and thats what got me to thinking about learning to control my agression at a higher level. I want to make sure that I dont loose my cool while at the same time stepping up my game.

In my first and only cage match, I lost composure, I snapped. I did not recall much of the fight. It was after that when I realized that I need to learn to control the agression that got me through that fight. This recent event reminded me of that fact.

[svoss03]

Originally Posted by legshot420

Controlled rage, brother. You gotta bottle that shit up and let it explode at very precise moments. Until the time is right, you keep it under check.

Thats what I'd like to learn how to do.

[svoss03]

Originally Posted by LiT_WiCK

everyone understands, dont you understand that?

what *I* dont understand is, what is the point of this thread? to get answers and feedback? which you have gotten and ignored... or to just put your thoughts on paper which would better be suited for a diary or a blog

No, I did not realize every one is acquanted with that level of rage. Damn I must run with a bunch of pussies.

[svoss03]

Originally Posted by xbourquex

You do know if you're not used to getting hit you generally think you are getting hit harder than they are hitting you? we all see this happening all the time, once someone gets hit alittle they start going all out on the other guy for no reason?

That is precisely what my last sparring partner does and why I backed off. If I step it up, so will he and I dont want to snap on the guy and have it become an all out brawl.

[bigjd]

Originally Posted by svoss03

Since I don’t think any one I know would even begin to understand where I am coming from I thought I was on my own... Until I realized this forum would be a good place to ask. Awesome epiphany.

My fight game is aggressive. I was at a time, well accustomed to fighting in the street, a few times in what I thought was life or death. I am older and wiser now but this instinct is still alive in me and I am trying to control/harness my inner aggression. Some of you may understand what I am saying others will have no idea, hell maybe I really am alone on this? Those who do know what I am talking about might recall a time or two where it did not matter if you lived or died, what injuries you may sustain or what condition you were in after the fact. What mattered was taking out the enemy because they were your enemy.

I feel like there is a point of no turning back, a switch that gets turned on that I do not have any control over. Not that my skills go out the window, but I almost feel like I loose my mind. It is a great feeling. No fear, no pain, no thoughts, just action. It is when I am at my best, doing what I was born to do. Zen.

The problem for me is bringing this into sparring. I honestly don’t want to admit it because to some it would seem conceited, but I am afraid to let go for fear of what I would do. I’ve seen the consequences of my thoughtless actions and have hurt people in ways much worse than physical pain. On the other side of the coin, there are times when I need to be able to respond, counter and strike like I would if I were in a street fight or cage match. I need to be able to be more aggressive with some of my training partners but I don’t do it because I think they will push back and push me to the point where I snap.

I don’t know, it’s like a love hate thing. If I like you I don’t want to hurt you, so I don’t want to go there. If I don’t like you, then fine, lets get it on and FUCK YOU if you die.

Should I go see a shrink, let loose on my training partners and let them be the ones to decide if they should push any further or is there an answer.

Is there a way to harness uninhibitedly that inner demon and then learn to control it effectively or should I just let it out? I really feel like just saying fuck you if you cant hang but I have learned a thing or 2 over the years.

The reason this comes up is because one of my training partners has a hard time controlling his anger and power. He has recently pissed me off by taking it too hard to a few new guys and almost pushed me to that “snapping point” last time we sparred. I am glad though, because without these recent events I would not be asking for advice right now.

Any body else as fucked up in the head?

Dude MMA and competing aren't for you. I like to spar hard, but I'm totally under control, because I know everyone I train with is helping me get better and I would never try and hurt one of them. If anything you should find the guys at your gym who like to spar lightly so you don't end up trying to actually fight one of them. Remember to check your ego at the door also, that's the first thing everyone should learn.