http://www.sherdog.net/forums Light-hearted humor and intelligent discussion only. No flaming. en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:39:10 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.cdn.sherdog.net/forums/images/darkinferno/misc/rss.jpg http://www.sherdog.net/forums http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/sherdog-history-1100054/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:28:25 GMT Hey, everyone. I'm going to write about sherdog for a class project and I wanted to ask a question that I couldn't find the answer to in my lurkings. Specifically, I wanted some facts about the OT, but since I don't have any posts I can't ask there (if this thread is in the wrong spot, my apologies). But if this attempt yields any info, ill be happy.

What I wanted to know is: If the OT was included in the site at Sherdog's inception, or if it was added later to provide an area for forum members appropriating discussion space intended for MMA? ]]> Mayberry Lounge borrisborris http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/sherdog-history-1100054/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/life-engineer-architect-1100038/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:50:44 GMT I posted a thread a while ago about the pay of engineers and I've been debating which program to go through. I've always thought architecture would be an amazingly rewarding career (even if not so much financially) but engineering (civil/mechanical) has always captivated me as well.

Basically for all the engineers/architects here could you fill me in on your happiness with your job? How it affects your life? Etc etc...

(Worldofwarcraft will post in this I hope :D) ]]> Mayberry Lounge pacer90 http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/life-engineer-architect-1100038/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/blind-dates-online-dating-horror-success-stories-1100032/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:43:08 GMT I have only been one one blind date and we ended up being really good friends-one of the best looking guys i have ever dated but he wasnt my type. What are your blind date/internet dating stories did you have any happy endings or was the experience a nightmare? I have only been one one blind date and we ended up being really good friends-one of the best looking guys i have ever dated but he wasnt my type. What are your blind date/internet dating stories did you have any happy endings or was the experience a nightmare? ]]> Mayberry Lounge Heritage http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/blind-dates-online-dating-horror-success-stories-1100032/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/peaking-life-looks-early-1100024/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:30:07 GMT Inspired by Adam Carolla's conversation with Mile Tolin yesterday this thread is about peaking early. Wither it be in the looks department or in life some people tend to peak early. By peaking that is the best looking they will get or best situation they will get themselves in through life. Allot of girls I knew in high school have done that, they were gorgeous girls who many like myself would've given an arm to be with. Fast forward 4 years and it looks like they peaked too early, some to most were 10's back then ...yes 10's but 4 years later and because of numerous things most are below a 4 maybe a 5 on good days.

Star athletes who could've gotten any girl they wanted go on to do nothing except carry around that letterman jacket and talk like they still run this joint.

Examples, fellas? ]]> Mayberry Lounge WARRampage1 http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/peaking-life-looks-early-1100024/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/how-do-you-deal-immoral-corrupt-people-1100013/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:11:50 GMT How do you deal with people who exploit other people for there own greedy gains or people who are corrupt and immoral??? I am talking about dana whites of this world exploiting fighters like karo parisyans of the world and ones they have a problem they get kicked to the curve????? I am not trying to make an mma thread but mma is where the inspiration came from its just sad that guys give there life and you have the bosses using there workers as slaves to get rich of them and kick them to the curve like they are just a piece of trash:mad: I am really losing faith in this world and as one man I cant change the world I feel like I need to influence people or inspire someone and see other people see what I see... How do you deal with people who exploit other people for there own greedy gains or people who are corrupt and immoral???



I am talking about dana whites of this world exploiting fighters like karo parisyans of the world and ones they have a problem they get kicked to the curve?????



I am not trying to make an mma thread but mma is where the inspiration came from its just sad that guys give there life and you have the bosses using there workers as slaves to get rich of them and kick them to the curve like they are just a piece of trash:mad:


I am really losing faith in this world and as one man I cant change the world I feel like I need to influence people or inspire someone and see other people see what I see... ]]> Mayberry Lounge BruceWayne09 http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/how-do-you-deal-immoral-corrupt-people-1100013/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/guitar-strings-1100010/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:04:42 GMT Alright here's the deal, I need to replace the nylon strings on my classical guitar. One snapped a few days ago. I need some brand recommendations as I have never done this before (been playing less than a year).

I'd also like to get new strings for my electric when I'm at the store, I'd like to get some hard resistance heavier gauge strings because I've heard they help you get your technique down when you start out and improve your hand strength. Would also like some recommendations here.

any advice would be appreciated.

]]> Mayberry Lounge dugforeva http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/guitar-strings-1100010/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/another-herbal-vaporizer-thread-health-question-1100009/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:02:21 GMT Anyone here have a vaporizer, and what kind? I have really bad acid reflux. It is the worst when I smoke weed. Which I do a lot. Does anybody know if a vaporizer will help this? Is it just the smoke that is causing the irritation, or the weed too? I am currently looking at the iolite. Has anyone tried it? Anyone here have a vaporizer, and what kind? I have really bad acid reflux. It is the worst when I smoke weed. Which I do a lot. Does anybody know if a vaporizer will help this? Is it just the smoke that is causing the irritation, or the weed too?

I am currently looking at the iolite. Has anyone tried it? ]]> Mayberry Lounge AmericaOverAll http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/another-herbal-vaporizer-thread-health-question-1100009/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/classic-film-101-peyton-place-1957-a-1100008/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:57:47 GMT This week is a fun one for me since I get to talk about the mother of all movie soap operas. Small-town gossip, mother/daughter quarrels, out-of-wedlock pregnancy, Oedipal issues, incest, rape, abortion. . .all in 1957.

That's right. The Leave it to Beaver era had one of the most controversial stories ever adapted to film, and the result isn't just an exercise in envelope pushing. Peyton Place is a well-written, well-acted, beautifully-shot film, fully deserving of its nine Oscar nominations.

Banned in some states, Peyton Place was considered by the ultra-conservatives to be the book responsible for robbing children of their innocence. The idea of bringing it to the silver screen seemed like career suicide, but hotshot producer Jerry Wald had experience in dealing with tawdry subject matter. The man responsible for bringing such films to the screen as Johnny Belinda, which centers around Jane Wyman as a deaf/mute who is raped; The Glass Menagerie, the first of many screen adaptations of the Tennessee Williams play; and From Here to Eternity, another steamy literary adaptation, Wald was ready to fight tooth-and-nail to preserve the integrity of Peyton Place and bring the great, albeit controversial, story to the screen the way it deserved to be told.

His first task: Convince Lana Turner to star. Famous as the Queen of MGM through the 1940s, by 1957, the 36-year-old Turner was no longer playing the blond bombshell roles that won her fame, and taking the role of a conservative mother would be like admitting that time in her acting career was over. Wald knew she was his star, though, and he managed to convince her, and for her work in the film, she received a Best Actress Oscar nomination and won legitimacy as a solid actress in the eyes of the film community.

In one scene in the film, Turner describes Peyton Place to Lee Philips.

"In Peyton Place, two people talking is a conspiracy, a meeting is an assignation, and getting to know one another is a scandal."

The town we see in the opening credits, though, is very different. The town we see seems idyllic, presented to us in a montage of gorgeousness, of beautiful landscapes and glorious cinematographic compositions.

We meet the residents of Peyton Place by first meeting the main family, mother Lana Turner and daughter Diane Varsi.

A senior at Peyton Place about to graduate, Varsi's class is presenting their teacher, Mildred Dunnock, with a present as congratulations for her forthcoming assignment to Peyton Place principal. As the students find out soon enough, the forthcoming assignment isn't forthcoming at all. It seems Peyton Place high school has sought an outsider, a younger, more progressive Lee Philips, who ultimately figures significantly in the developing story.

After school, Varsi and her best friend, Hope Lange, go to Turner's dress shop, where some of their classmates are looking for dresses for the upcoming graduation dance. Turner tells Varsi that she objects to one of the girls in particular, Terry Moore, who has a "reputation," meaning she's the town slut. Even though she actually has a very sweet relationship with Barry Coe, the town only sees what they want to see and gossip doesn't have to worry about that pesky thing known as the truth.

Turner doesn't want Varsi inviting Moore to her birthday party, but Varsi knows that if she doesn't invite the popular Moore, that soon enough, none of the popular kids from her class will come. Sick of her mother being so overprotective, she begs her mother to allow her to live a life outside of a test tube, as she accuses her mother of living, and let her have some fun.

Turner doesn't want a fight, so she goes out to the movies alone and lets her daughter have her birthday party in private. After the movies, killing time in a small diner, Turner meets Philips for the first time.



Turner is a widow, her husband having died when Varsi was only two years old, and ever since, she's lived a very sheltered life, avoiding the dating scene and living only for her dress shop and her daughter, so even though Philips is interested, Turner gives him some cold treatment.

She returns home, figuring her daughter's party is in the wind-down phase, only much to her surprise, she returns home to find the lights turned down, teen couples "necking," as the screenplay likes to call it, so she turns on the lights, only to see her daughter kissing the popular boy during a playful game.



She kicks everybody out and her and Varsi get into it. Turner is trying so hard to keep her daughter away from even the most minor scandal that she could get herself into, but all of her efforts are only further alienating her daughter, who is becoming increasingly incensed by her mother.

This being a two and a half hour adaptation of a considerably-sized novel, there are, of course, multiple story threads running through this film. Along with the family drama in the Turner/Varsi house, there's also a family drama involving Hope Lange and her abusive, alcoholic stepfather, played by Best Supporting Actor Oscar nominee Arthur Kennedy. The beginning of the film saw Lange's older brother leaving home to get away from Kennedy, and now, Kennedy has been focusing his attentions on Lange.

One day, when Varsi stops by to pick up Lange for church, she happens to be there just in time to break up a violent family scuffle.



The tensions between Lange and Kennedy have been escalating for the entire film, and with this explosion, we know it's only a matter of time before something really bad happens.

It's not to happen yet, however. In the meantime, Varsi, against her mother's wishes, is spending a lot of time with a shy, repressed neighborhood boy.



Russ Tamblyn plays the character Norman, who, in the book, had a much more Freudian relationship with his mother than comes across in the film. Still, though, the repression and the Oedipal overtones are easily discernible, and Varsi spends a considerable amount of time trying to pry Tamblyn out of the emotional hole his mother has buried him in.

They spend time together at the graduation dance, where a number of storylines come together. Turner and Philips are there chaperoning the dance together, and they share a dance together; Lange and her boyfriend, David Nelson, enjoy the night together and talk about their future; Moore confronts Coe about how fed up she is with the way he never stands up to his father; and then, after the dance, the most controversial storyline develops.

Once she says goodnight to Nelson, Lange goes inside her house, expecting to find everyone asleep. Unfortunately, she finds Kennedy, up, drunk, and, as it turns out, aroused.

There was a very disturbing sequence earlier in the film where he watched her put on her nylons, and here, looking at her all dressed up coming from the dance, his urges are too powerful to overcome, and he doesn't even want to overcome them. As a self-loathing bastard, Kennedy decides to treat himself, and he treats himself to his stepdaughter.



A struggle ensues, but the more powerful Kennedy overpowers his much smaller stepdaughter, and Lange suffers her stepfather's rape.

As I discussed in my threads for A Streetcar Named Desire and The Man with the Golden Arm, the Hollywood Production Code was being faced with considerable opposition by filmmakers in the 1950s, but they were confronted, in Peyton Place, with content the likes of which they'd yet to be confronted with.

The film is censored, obviously, but considering how strict the Production Code used to be and considering how salacious some of the material in Peyton Place is, Wald was able to get away with a hell of a lot, and this storyline with the rape of Hope Lange is no doubt the most controversial, and Wald was able to preserve the storyline, and screenwriter John Michael Hayes was able to get away with a lot by way of dialogue.

For me, the most disturbing line in the entire film comes when Kennedy has Lange backed up against her bedpost, and he says to her, in the role of her father and thinking of what he's about to do to her, "About time I started teaching you something."

Can you say. . .

]]> Mayberry Lounge Bullitt68 http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/classic-film-101-peyton-place-1957-a-1100008/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/whats-dinner-today-1100000/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:46:06 GMT Anybody having anything good?

i think i am going to pick up Pei Wei or maybe a good 20in pizza from Carmine's. Not sure what yet ]]> Mayberry Lounge DepthchargeZero http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/whats-dinner-today-1100000/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/coffee-thread-1099991/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:32:03 GMT Hey friends. Do you drink coffee? Well this thread is for you!

Personally, I prefer a latte to straight coffee. And recently I heard that coffee grinders that 'chop' the coffee beans (as opposed to coffee grinder that 'crush') make the coffee more bitter. Is that true? I had never heard that before.



How do you take your coffee? Do you make it or buy it? What blends are your fav? In other words, all things coffee go here! ]]> Mayberry Lounge Valiss http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/coffee-thread-1099991/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/ever-win-anything-1099990/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:30:04 GMT I just won jay z tickets on the radio. I'm really not a huge fan but I was acting like it was the second coming of Christ. Anyone else win any contests? ]]> Mayberry Lounge PaulyMolitor http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/ever-win-anything-1099990/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/vampire-emo-song-twilight-spoof-1099973/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:03:11 GMT YouTube - TWILIGHT SUCKS! Emo Vampire Song : The Key of Awesome #3 ]]> Mayberry Lounge Tiger http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/vampire-emo-song-twilight-spoof-1099973/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/torrent-1099934/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:56:05 GMT Can someone teach me how to DL and view a torrent?

I have never DL a torrent b4 and don't plan to ever again, but I want to preview a book before I unload some serious dough on it and I see there is a torrent on theebooksbay.

I tried to DL it but I have no idea how to open it. It's a djvu file. I probably dont have a program to open it either so if you could please guide me to a free program to view once it's open, thanks. ]]> Mayberry Lounge http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/torrent-1099934/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/what-should-i-d-my-birthday-1099926/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:34:36 GMT ANother than watching stargate universe I don't have any more plans
I got 28 heelhooks for my birthday so that is done. Well I am kinda stumped.
I didn't plan any thing but I feel almost obligated to do something besides drinking beer whil watching the sci fi channel. However 28 isn't exactly a big one 30 is the one I'll do something epic for ]]> Mayberry Lounge Wolfwood http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/what-should-i-d-my-birthday-1099926/ http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/what-kind-sunglasses-1099920/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:18:45 GMT anybody know the brand of this sunglasses? Image: http://themicrocosm.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/rocknrolla172.jpg anybody know the brand of this sunglasses?
]]> Mayberry Lounge skarface http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/what-kind-sunglasses-1099920/