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- Leg Kicks Not Enough?
- Machida exposed,Anderson is next...
- Dana White, ESPN Think Shogun Beat Machida
- Lol@all the okami whiners
- Let's not think negative ITT and realize that the REAL Shogun is here
- Can we switch fights?
- Verbal commitment for immediate rematch confirmed by Rua, Machida, and the UFC!
- A Shogun/Machida rematch almost seems pointless.
- *#$% the UFC
- Rogan made it sound like shogun won, but he didn't
- A few things we learned after last night's event
- Teddy Atlas discusses corruption in boxing decisions
- bias commentators=104 out rage
- Sherdog, please make a point!
- Lyoto was the real loser last night... not talking about the fight
- Machida and AS should play trading places
- Rematch and PPV (Machida vs Shogun)
- The "leg kick" argument
- UFC 104 Main Card = Everything You Hate About MMA...
- Was BJ Penn's Robbery @ Greasegate the only other Bigger Disappointment?
- ESPN Headline Said Rua Won
- Anderson Silva would beat anyone at 205
- The real loser last night
- Antonio Rogerio "Minotoro" Nogueira vs. Randy Couture
- Machida had the look of defeat in his eyes
- Lyoto vs Shogun=BJ vs GSP
- CSAC judges who scored Shogun/Machida also musicians?
- IF shogun did win......
- Yoshiyuki Yoshida entrence music
- Rumble Johnson best striker at 170?
- Shoop that Judge
- anderson silva and the lhw title
- Machida looked Human Last Night
- Cain Velasquez is seemingly the most unhappy mma fighter ever
- GSP would beat Machida
- UFC 104 just saved me 600 bucks a year
- Last night made me embarrassed to be an MMA fan
- The Machida/Shogun, stand up technical fight of the year. (NOT ABOUT DECISION)
- Sherdog finally united?
- Welcome to the Machida era
- if there is a REMATCH, it better be FREE!! Will you buy a rematch (poll)
- I had a dream last night
- I absolutely hate the light heavyweight division.
- Machida had plenty of opportunities
- Lack of any Trips
- CONGRATULATIONS UFC: You have officially moved to the next business level.
- Whats next for Shogun and Machida?
- Karate is Dead
- Mazzagotti what were you thinking??!!
- How about Chael Sonnen?!
- Forrest Griffin would beat Machida, if he uses Shogun's gameplan.
- One thing no one is talking about
- Fights I would have fixed long before Machida vesus Shogun
- So anyone ready for Machida versus Brock Lesnar
- Who's worse .....
- Carwin lucky he didn't get Cain
- Real-time reaction to Machida/Shogun decision
- Has the Machida Puzzle been Solved???
- Who is going to get more phsycological damage from the decision, Rua or Machida?
- What's a guy gotta do to get a belt round here?
- You know you're elusive when..
- Shogun's performance last night
- Predictable Sherdog shitstorm aside, you people need to realize one thing..
- The real victim here..
- Give him a little respect
- Chael Sonnen sucks!
- REWATCH Machida VS Shogun with the Sound OFF!! Discussion
- An 8-step process to understanding the Machida decision
- To all the people who says that leg kicks doesn't mean shit
- does lyoto only attack from his left side?
- Would you rather see Shogun/Silva than Shogun/Machida II?
- does someone want to sue the athletic commission for compensation - machidavs.shogun?
- So can this Machida era nonsense stop now?
- Robbery!!!!
- Straka Interviews At UFC 104
- FOTN-- What fight was the best at 104?
- That was my favorite fight this year
- Bottom line for Machida
- As expected, more shertardedness
- Example of Rogan bias commentary
- what Machida really got from this fight: the rematch
- the "beat the champ to be the champ" myth
- MMA Fans...stand together and protest this travesty...PETITION
- Shogun won round 1,2,3,4 and 5. New LHW CHAMP!
- Common excuses offered by Machida apologists
- Ariel's Post Fight Videos
- This is complete bullcrap, Machida got his ass whipped, and now he gets a rematch
- PRIDE judging system needs to come to America
- Are you Excited For the Rematch??
- muy thai owns karate
- Tommorrow Monday call Bill Douglas (916) 263 2195 at the athletic commision.
- So when do you think "Machid vs Shogun II" will happen?
- Let Dana know how you really feel on his TWITTER..
- Whats next for Shogun and Machida?
- The Irony of Machida/Shogun
- Pat Barry
- Machida better suited for 185?
- Please show Machida a little respect
- UFC 104= depressing
- Shogun vs. Machida: the most timid fight ever
- Take 3hree boxing judges add an MMA title fight you get a recipe for controversy
- Petition to overturn Shogun decision PLEASE SIGN!!
- Did anyone catch what Dana said to Rua right after the fight?
- Buffer introduction Shogun Vs Machida
- Machida at the begining of the fight!!
- Could the CSAC overturn this?
- Judge's cards : should they reveal how they have scored every round after the fight ?
- A sad day to be a fan of mma
- I want to see other fighters opinions...
- Shogun decison sucks
- Machida will now be known as the imposter champ
- A UD was MORE impressive than a KO/TKO!!
- If you want to be the champ, you have to BEAT the champ
- Do you think Luiz Cane would have a chance at beating Machida ?
- How can you write something off as "Don't leave it to the judges"
- Leg kicks are STILL STRIKES!
- Anderson or machida......Who's better striker?
- shogun should quit!
- *Official* Rename the Shogun/Machida fight
- What if the fight went one more round? Give your points of view
- In honor of shogun
- Rematch at UFC 109?
- I doubt we'll have dragon V shogun 2 for some time.....
- Now it is obvious: Shogun was underrated before the fight
- So will Machida train less karate now?
- "The minute you stop being humble" Yoshizo Machida
- Where to have the rematch?
- Affirmative Action Blamed for Judging
- Shogun won every single round imo
- To be the champ, you have to beat the champ
- Where does Velasquez stand now?
- Who feels Machida will comeback stronger?
- Together we bring it to CSAC
- Awards of the night?
- Forget all this 'points' bull****. You must BEAT THE CHAMPION
- Shogunhuggers and others: Some needed realism
- Joe Stevenson Entrance music?
- One of the Machida/Shogun judges was CECIL FRIGGIN PEOPLES
- Fightmetric deceiving
- UFC 104 in a nutshell for me.
- Drawing Parallels: Machida/Shogun & Couture/Rizzo
- Focus on the positive!!!!!!!!!!
- Rua doesn't get to be champion because Joe Rogan says so
- Machida will make changes
- yeah shogun won but........
- Shogun shed tears of frustration
- Your excuses are horrible
- Don't be fooled by fightmetrics. Machida won rounds 1, 2, and 3.
- Why does everyone think this was such a bad decison?
- My eyes hurt......
- WTH Is That Around Cain's Neck @ Post-Fight Conference?!
- REMATCH Shogun by Flying Gogo
- Shogun/Machida made me Respect Anderson Silva as a champion even more
- Lyoto 'The Dragon' Machida's UFC career - a snapshot/breakdown...
- Challenger has to take belt from Champ is BS
- Ryoto vs Zuffa vs RogBerg vs Shogun
- Shogun fans, this might help you get some sleep tonight
- Watch the fight in Shogun/Machida fight in MUTE without commentary
- All Shoguns hard work for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
- For all you who are upset with UFC 104
- Will Shogun be over-agressive in the re-match?
- Who else is surprised that not only Machida has won but all judges had it 48-47 ?!
- Bonus UFC 104!!
- Give shogun a belt as well ? good idea ?
- All things considered, I still can't believe Shogun figured out Machida and beat him.
- How other scored the Shogun vs Machida fight
- Corruption!!!
- Holy sh*t, if Vera gets past Randy, he could destroy Machida for the title!
- Tired of the "You have to REALLY beat the champion garbage"
- the 4 L of Shogun
- I think Brandon Vera would give Lyoto fits...
- An exhibition of public outrage!
- Is it even possible to overturn a decision?
- Velazquez/Rothwell stoppage was justified
- I will never pay for another UFC PPV...
- Here LIVE ODDS on Machida vs Shogun fight going into the last round ...
- Kevin Iole says it's Shogun's own damn fault he got robbed. Iole sucks so bad.
- Question is: Who's behind it?
- Machida fan's post fight excuses (and the winner is!...)
- Shogun Won.
- I'm tired of Cecil Peoples ruining our sport.
- Machida fans?
- Your NEW LHW champion. MAURICIO SHOGUN RUAAAAAAAA!!!
- Who wants to see Machida lose now!?!?!!!
- S c a n d a l
- According to FightMetric, Shogun is Champ
- So its Official the Machida Era is over!!!!!!!!!!Both the fighter and Man
- Should Machida have 'done a Rampage'?
- Shogun vs Machida Fixed??
- Overhyped Doesn't Mean Overrated.
- Am I the only Machida fan left? Or did everyone jump ship after The fight?
- Where are the Machida Nuthuggers Now.LOL.
- You just don't know who's going to win anymore...
- Muay Thai > Karate > (Kick) Boxing
- CSAC, enough is enough.
- Machida = no honor
- where are the machida nuthuggers now
- machida/Shogun not nearly the robbery its made out to be
- Fact: Machida won and is champion.
- Rogan called a bad main event
- How did Machida won? Flow chart inside...
- Machida ungracious. Even underestimated Rua!
- Betting on UFC
- Too much emotion for Shogun... he lost!
- Did Machida fail to find Shougun's timing or was he scared to get KO'd?
- Who's next for Stevenson?
- Delete
- How many think Machida willl learn quickly from this fight & easily win the rematch?
- Are there any Shogun doubters left?
- Prime Sakuraba v Current Anderson Silva, who takes it ?
- Updated LHW Rankings
- Welcome to...
- Sonnen and Okami
- LOL..robbed.
- On Rumble....
- on second thought...the machida/shogun fight.
- This travesty never would have happened..
- mauricio 'shogun' rua the REAL UFC LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
- Anyone got a gif of Shogun's flying body kick?
- Dana's Twitter says rematch
- Machida's post fight answer...or lack of.
- Sig av bets?
- Do you want to see a rematch right away, or for Shogun to fight the next best LHW?
- A good decision for Rua?
- worst dec you've seen?
- Judgees vs Community
- All UFC champions have weaknesses except Silva
- I've ordered mine already!
- Articles on MMA Judging
- Make up your mind Sherdog.
- Attn: Eduardo Alonso (Shogun's Manager): Post your messages to Shogun in this thread!
- Shogun didn't deserve the title shot in the first place
- Machida vs Shogun REVISITED!
- Shogun vs Machida Rematch Already In The Works
- Immediate rematch highly unlikely.
- FightMetric statistics deconstruct UFC 104 controversial decision for ‘Machida vs Sho
- The UFC stood to lose alot of money with a shogun win...
- Machida fans?
- Dana White also agrees that Shogun won...
- Sorrow Stories of Rua
- mma should be better than boxing
- Machida needs to MAN UP within a week or he has no credibility
- All three judges need to be banned from officiating
- Did that remind you of WWE ?
- ***the ultimate fighting entertainment***
- Machida vs Shogun, you can't leave decision up to judges.
- The Machida - Rua fight, bright futures, better fighters.
- Anyone who thought Machida did win?
- Did Shogun's striking technique improve a lot since Forrest?
- Machida= Paper champ