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Aesopian · 06-09-2006, 04:42 PM

One issue I wanted to bring up about the SBG is how a lot of BJJ and MMA guys blow them off or get a "so fucking what" attitude about them. When talking about the I-Method with a lot of guys they'll just disregard it, saying "Everyone already does that." And I agree in a sense, since "isolation" has always been in BJJ; passing the guard, side control escapes, "in the hole" drilling, etc. are all common place in BJJ, and all good schools have followed this teaching progession. As has been mentioned earlier, judo, wrestling and really any functional art already has a training progression like this.

But why do these work? Why don't other methods work as well? How can you make them work better? How could you apply the same practices to other aspects of martial arts, like stick fighting, knife defense, law enforcement training? How do you teach your coaches to teach their guys right?

That's where I see the real value in what SBG has done by breaking down and naming a lot of these things. The attitude I run into is that SBG is trying to take credit everyone else's work or that they're just putting a marketing spin on it by giving it new names. Maybe they are, but having talked to a lot of the head SBG guys, I really doubt it. They just want people to get good training and understand why the training is good, and part of that is taking the things that "everyone knows" and "everyone does" and breaking them down. So it's no longer "it works because sensei says so" or "it works because BJJ has always done it this way", but it's something more fundamental like "it works because the student can learn the material, progressively gain skill in it and eventually add it to his game".

I understand the sentiment that SBG is just taking credit for everyone else's work since I used to feel the same way, but once I really looked into it, they credit and thank a lot guys like Rigan, Jean-Jacques, Randy and a lot of styles like BJJ, MT, wrestling, boxing, MT, judo, etc. for everything they do. I think they'll be the first to say that they owe many people and arts for their long histories of great training methods.

06-09-2006, 04:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
Aesopian Brown Belt Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Clearwater Posts: 2,756	One issue I wanted to bring up about the SBG is how a lot of BJJ and MMA guys blow them off or get a "so fucking what" attitude about them. When talking about the I-Method with a lot of guys they'll just disregard it, saying "Everyone already does that." And I agree in a sense, since "isolation" has always been in BJJ; passing the guard, side control escapes, "in the hole" drilling, etc. are all common place in BJJ, and all good schools have followed this teaching progession. As has been mentioned earlier, judo, wrestling and really any functional art already has a training progression like this. But why do these work? Why don't other methods work as well? How can you make them work better? How could you apply the same practices to other aspects of martial arts, like stick fighting, knife defense, law enforcement training? How do you teach your coaches to teach their guys right? That's where I see the real value in what SBG has done by breaking down and naming a lot of these things. The attitude I run into is that SBG is trying to take credit everyone else's work or that they're just putting a marketing spin on it by giving it new names. Maybe they are, but having talked to a lot of the head SBG guys, I really doubt it. They just want people to get good training and understand why the training is good, and part of that is taking the things that "everyone knows" and "everyone does" and breaking them down. So it's no longer "it works because sensei says so" or "it works because BJJ has always done it this way", but it's something more fundamental like "it works because the student can learn the material, progressively gain skill in it and eventually add it to his game". I understand the sentiment that SBG is just taking credit for everyone else's work since I used to feel the same way, but once I really looked into it, they credit and thank a lot guys like Rigan, Jean-Jacques, Randy and a lot of styles like BJJ, MT, wrestling, boxing, MT, judo, etc. for everything they do. I think they'll be the first to say that they owe many people and arts for their long histories of great training methods. __________________ Just totally awesome.