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Originally Posted by Tristram Shandy
oh i think that competetive shooting and using rifle's is essentially a skillfull persuit... but honestly, the most perceived gun is the handgun... and that rerquires zero skill to take anyone out.
I would strongly challenge the assertion that the hand gun requires "zero skill." As someone who is certified in the use of three different firearms weapon systems (rifle, shotgun, and handgun) I would suggest that it is actually the most difficult. Any firearms instructor (which I am not) could tell you that because less of your body is in contact with the weapon it is harder to control. This is why automatic rifles can be fired accurately (use of a shoulder stock) as opposed to a pistol which, when rendered automatic, usually needs to have a foregrip added to it to achieve any kind of accuracy. This is akin to gun enthusiasts I know telling me that they don't need to learn how to punch since EVERYBODY knows how to throw a punch.
As far as the knife question goes I never leave the house without my Kershaw Ken Onion Boa 3 3/8" folder. At work I also carry a SOG Seal Pup and a Gerber Boot Knife. I can think of several times at which these weapons could be used effectively in the guard (femoral arteries anyone?) but I will defer to senior members for the moment.
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i totally respect your opinion... but lets face it... more gun deaths (violent and accident) are done by handguns. shootings on streets, with gangs, those guys don't go to gun school. little kids picking up guns and shooting them... i'm not knocking guns at all in the way you might think, i'm just saying that any moron can pick up a handgun, point and shoot. how could that be not true? again, i'm not talking knowledge of the complexities of the weapon, i.e. cleaning, maintenance and repair. i'm saying, point and shoot.
and as for the knife/guard example... yeah, your 100% right, but in the end, knife fights are mostly stand-up swipe and poke ordeals...not on the ground, precision strikes!!! i'm talking the average encounter, since the vast majority of people don't have any training in anything they use!