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Originally Posted by sturmgeist
Because the dude has fought from lightweight all the way to heavyweight, and has done pretty fucking good in every class. That's the definition of P4P - defeating guys, or at least making a strong showing, much bigger than you through skill and sheer determination. BJ and Fedor are two of the only guys who should even be mentioned in P4P discussion, because nobody else you guys talk about has done a GOD damn thing to deserve it.
P4P fighters =
Sakuraba
Royce
BJ
Fedor
When GSP moves cuts weight down to 155 and beats some ass, then moves up to 185 and does well, then to 205 and over and does respectably, then he's a great P4P fighter. Until then, he's just a great WW, nothing more. Same goes for ALL the guys who get talked about as P4P fighters, until they prove something by fighting guys well out of their natural weight class, with success, they should not be mentioned.
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Based on your conditions for GSP to be a best p4p fighter I have to ask when was the last time Fedor moved through different weight classes and how many top 5 HW has he faced in the last 3 years? I love Fedor and I do think he is the best p4p in the world but I guess it comes down to your definition of the term p4p. GSP can't fight at 155 - he's too big.
BJ has won 1 fight at WW years ago and lost the last 2 to GSP and Hughes and he lost to Machida at LHW as well. Bj hasn't fought at HW BTW. A fighter is best p4p IF HE ACTUALLY WINS when he goes to a different weight class, not just put on a good show. ANYONE CAN MOVE UP AND LOOSE.
All these guys are amazing fighters and we are lucky enough to be able to possibly see them fight each other at their prime. Let's see what happens on Jan. 31...
p4p is a subjective term that has no definite guidelines. It's basically an educated guess - a hypothesis but when you apply your criteria to one fighter make sure you apply it to the rest so your argument actually makes sense.