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Originally Posted by sturmgeist
Because the dude has fought from lightweight all the way to heavyweight, and has done pretty fucking good in every class. That's the definition of P4P - defeating guys, or at least making a strong showing, much bigger than you through skill and sheer determination. BJ and Fedor are two of the only guys who should even be mentioned in P4P discussion, because nobody else you guys talk about has done a GOD damn thing to deserve it.
P4P fighters =
Sakuraba
Royce
BJ
Fedor
When GSP moves cuts weight down to 155 and beats some ass, then moves up to 185 and does well, then to 205 and over and does respectably, then he's a great P4P fighter. Until then, he's just a great WW, nothing more. Same goes for ALL the guys who get talked about as P4P fighters, until they prove something by fighting guys well out of their natural weight class, with success, they should not be mentioned.
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Lookup the definition of P4P because you don't know what it means, like so many Sherdoggers. That is why BTW, in many people's mind, that BJ is ahead of GSP in some P4P rankings: because most people think they know what P4P means, but they don't.
From Wikipedia:
Origin of the term
It is often said to have been created to describe world Welterweight and Middleweight champion Sugar Ray Robinson.[1] Robinson is one of the most accomplished fighters of all time, but his supporters realized that, while he could beat anyone in his own class, as a Middleweight he would not be able to beat a top Heavyweight. Hence, Robinson was called the pound-for-pound best
without being expected to beat much larger fighters,under the belief that he as a Middleweight was still a better quality fighter than any fighter fighting at heavier or lighter weights than him.
If BJ > GSP in P4P, then Keith Hackney > BJ