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Originally Posted by The D'arce Lord

Here is a hypothetical situation:

1) Elite NEVER folded and still had the same stable of fighters.
2) UFC has it's current stable of fighters.
3) Elite has comparable outlets that UFC does.
4) Dana white has been FIRED from the UFC and is now the NEW PRESIDENT OF Elite XC.

Does anybody believe that Dana White "The man who saved MMA" would be able to trump the UFC (using his current methods of doing business)?

This is a round about "What came first the chicken or the egg" type of question.

See, me personally. I think that THE FIGHTERS is what makes the UFC so great. I think that, at this point, if the UFC got another President that the company would either get better or stay the same (as far as interest and viewership is concerned) as long as they kept the fighters happy.

Dana White would not be able to get lucky TWICE!

I mean, LETS BE HONEST, how long can one man coast on one achievement.? TUF was/is great (dependin on who you ask). And the Forrest/Bonnar fight really did save the company. But beyond that, what has DW done since then? What significant deal has he made?

Fox Deal? - FAILURE!
Fedor Deal? - FAILURE X 2!
HBO Deal? - FAILURE!
ESPN Deal? - FAILURE!
CBS Deal? - FAILURE!
Fighter Dolls? - Success <--But really. Who over the age of 10 really gives a flyin' fuck? Any grown man w/ those dolls should promptly have his ass beaten stupid by the nearest middle schooler.
UFC Video Game - Ehh...Not really anything new as their have already been UFC games. This one might be kinda decent. But I can't really call tihs a DW achievement!
UFC IN MSG? - A DW pipe dream. This won't happen unless somebody not named DW is doing the deal!

The man can't deal his way into anything where he doesn't already have the upper hand. I will be more than suprised if he EVER successfully brokers a deal for the UFC to hit the streets of NYC. It'll never happen w/ him at the helm.

I use to be such a huge DW fan until I realized that damn near every deal the man attempts to touch turns to shit and it usually turns to shit b/c he's always acting like and impetuous tempermental adolescent lil girl about business.

You do realize that the "failed" Fedor, HBO, ESPN, and CBS deals are WHY the UFC are so successful? They make CHOICES THAT MAKE THEM MONEY. Most dipshits would have given their souls to be on CBS. (Like Elitexc did). The UFC does not make decisions based on Sherdog, they make decisions based on good, sound business. That is why they didn't make those deals happen and they are better off for it. Do you actually think they would be better off had they made any of those deals happen?

Affliction has an AWESOME stock of fighters. If it's the fighters that matter, why did their first PPV only sell 100k PPVs?

Why did the WFA fail?

Why did Pride fail?

Why is Dream failing?

It's the not the fighters, it's the leaders. Poor leaders (EliteXC) can ruin any Org no matter how good the fighters. Good leaders can even make mediocre fighters into profitable organizations. (See KOTC) Ultimately, you need good fighters, but workers are always in good supply. Great managers? They are VERY hard to find.

The UFC is no different from any other business. Worker bees are a necessity, but easily found and replaced. Great leaders are rare and priceless, thus they are paid more.