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Posted by Jayjustscrap "what i think is ironic about the Gracies (who i love and respect by the way) is that when they created the UFC to show the world that bjj was the greatest hand to hand martial art they succeeded, but they also gave other martial artists who were naturally gifted athletes the tools for countering bjj"
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No they didnt. Wrestling already had all the answers and thats why the Gracie mystique of power was eventually destroyed by a pro wrestler in Kazushi Sakuraba.
Renzo Gracie's stay at the peak of MMA was ended by another wrestler Dan Henderson.
The answers for countering BJJ were there as far back as UFC 1 when Ken Shamrock succesfully sprawled in response to Royce's double leg takedown.
Personally I think the Royce of 1993-1995 was at his best in terms of aggression and pure ju jitsu and speed.
But by 2000 he was probably at his peak v Sakuraba. In that he had learned to take a hell of a punch and keep fighting. Watch UFC V and see how one big punch from Shamrock slowed him down and than watch Royce V Tokoro where Royce has his nose bloodied bad but comes back to almost finish Tokoro and in my eyes clearly win the fight on points. Its just by 2005 Royce has slowed down terribly in terms of speed