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Originally Posted by chriskiss
When you say farmers producing everything we need, you've hit the nail on the head. We need farmers producing food, not fuel. If you cut back on farming food, the prices go up. Supply and demand.
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We just need more farmers, supply and demand.
There are millions farmers in the world wanting to crop anything.
These poor farmers in third world can not compete with first world subsidies.
Besides, farmers can offer many other things along with food energy, please include tourism, pet animals, ecological business and protection of environment.
Farmers can even crop winds to produce the purest clean energy.
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Considering the issues with ethanol as a fuel, it's insult to injury taking away food and then producing a fuel with a negative net energy gain.
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No, just no.
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Your numbers are entirely irrelivant considering I wasn't talking about gasoline/ethanol mixtures. I'm talking about gasohol. That's water and ethanol.
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This was a problem we faced in the 80s, not now.
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You have no idea how they produce bio-dieself so how can you say that it's not a negative net energy gain? The fact that it's used doesn't mean that it's a perfect solution. Look at electric cars; say we all drive an electric vehicle. Does that mean that car emissions have ceased? No, it means that we're burning coal to produce the electricity to charge the vehicle.
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We also should stop using coal, or at least make sure it remains are clean.
Some plants exist by nature, they are there without we doing anything !
Oil palm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We already have technology to make bio-diesel from any source of vegetal oil.
Sorry for my english.